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@Monoboy, you bring up an interesting point about civil unrest.
That Trump is a narcissistic man-baby and a lying traitor to his country is obvious, but only part of the whole picture. The other major problem is his supporters. I've brought the comparison up before, and it's worth revisiting:
Ex-Toronto mayor, the now-dead Rob Ford, was eerily similar to Trump in his disposition, approach to the job and disregard for things like common decency and the rule of law. He made an absolute farce of the office of mayor, was routinely beligerent to entire groups of people, law enforcement agencies, and the to the media.
His supporters — known colloquially as 'Ford Nation' — were staggering in their unwavering support for Ford, despite all evidence pointing to him needing to be ejected from civilised life and discourse with all possible haste.
Even after he was stripped of his powers and new antics of his appearing almost daily for week, his supporters propped him up. Had he not finally (and mercifully for the rest of us) shuffled off this mortal coil, they'd have kept it up.
Obviously, being the mayor of a city of a few million people isn't quite the same as being president of a country of a few hundred million. But the principle is frighteningly similar, in that we're dealing with people whose fan bases are especially rabid, even in the face of the obvious conclusion about their fitness for their respective duties and offices.
The situation is further exacerbated by two facts: 1) the kind of inbred, racist, right-wing simpletons that Trump appeals to haven't been this close to power at the national level since a long time, and 2) they tend to be armed to the teeth.
If this group of supporters is robbed of their power, and continue to see Trump as their boy, I shudder to imagine how they would react if Trump were to be somehow removed from office — and maybe even charged with a criminal offence or two.
I would hope that law enforcement agencies in that country be very mindful of this group of people. It wouldn't take much for them to get triggered to cause significant — and violent — unrest.
- The GOP might yet go all in and circle the wagons to protect his dismantling of Government. They've never been closer to seizing control of everything, we'll semonoboy
- yep was saying this to a friend the other day. it makes it v.unlikely impeachment will happen unless something really really big - too risky for the nation.fadein11
- He certainly won't go quietly. I'd expect him to stoke the fires and incite some sort of direct action. Remember what he said about taking Clinton out.monoboy
- This is going to escalate, badly, maybe not quickly. There are a lot of fat dad militias out there willing to fight, many in/ex gov, army or law enforcement.monoboy
- Oh, I think he'll eventually either get impeached or resign, fadein. I've no doubt of that. The problem lies in the aftermath. I hope local police and the FBIContinuity
- ... are ready for any possible consequences of that from the fanboys, is all.Continuity
- Getting rid of him would be more trouble than it's worth. Best bet is to sit it out and remove him at the ballot. That means coming up with a credible candidateFax_Benson
- and some actual policies. Screaming into the void for four years won't work and will drive everybody mental. More mental.Fax_Benson
- you have to let his (lack of) policies fail. Anything else will be seen as a conspiracy, rightly or wrongly.Fax_Benson
- You might be right, but I think the only thing that'll shake the beliefs of omg and co is a military disaster pursuing 'national' interests.monoboy
- why bother trying to change omg's mind. pissing in the wind. no chance.Fax_Benson
- Go watch the documentary on the Oklahoma City bombing that is on Netflix. You'll see the mentality of the extreme right wing, gun toting "patriots" that luv himmg33