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    • Some right-wing Christians share similar beliefs to Islamists. I want them both fuck the fuck right off.monoboy
    • Secular Government, secular education. As the founding fathers wanted it. Worship who you like, just keep it out of classrooms and boardrooms.monoboy
    • If you must teach religion, teach all religions. From Puritan to Shinto.monoboy
    • or, It's increasingly difficult to coexist with people when other people are telling you that said people are all trying to kill you, when they're actually notFax_Benson
    • I think blurring the line between a 'religion' and the 'religious' is counterproductive. It is perfectly OK to criticise the idea.Morning_star
    • not if you criticize the left's positions. if you do so you're labeled bigoted, xenophobic, islamophobic... etc. etc.IRNlun6
    • Seems like the starting point of most discussions is you must agree with all my positions. If not then you should not be allowed to speak.IRNlun6
    • that's because the left's position is that not all muslims are radical terrorists and actually look down on bigotry, xenophobia and islamaphobiamonospaced
    • @IRN You're probably aware but Sam Harris has some good podcasts discussing exactly your point. I agree with you too. The liberal left largely have their head..Morning_star
    • ...in the sand.Morning_star
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    • awe vero found a friendmonospaced
    • @Morning_star I am a fan of Sam Harris, although I disagree with his some of his recent stances against Trump.IRNlun6
    • Sam mentions how one side thinks terror has nothing to do with muslims vs the other who thinks all muslims are responsible.IRNlun6
    • Both sides failing to appreciate how complex the problem is. Trump to me falls in the middle.IRNlun6
    • Trump understands there's terrorism in Islam, understands it's a small group and not representative of the whole.IRNlun6
    • Trump is very inarticulate in expressing this, so Sam puts him in the camp of blaming all muslims.IRNlun6
    • I think Sam doesn't appreciate that this conversation will not be publicly had in an intellectual and articulate way.IRNlun6
    • And when you have two very vocal sides that don't even agree that it's so nuanced and complex, well it's going to be messy.IRNlun6
    • Indeed. Sadly, it will get worse before it gets better.Morning_star

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