<-- Cartlidge Levene

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    You won't get slagged off me fella, I know what your sayin' 100% I think there are alot of people in business who view design as a after thought "making things look nice" and that is shite.

    I am often only included in the creative process when it is too late which pisses me off too, plus I think alot of people think what we do is easy, because we used computers and stuff, the skill element from the client's perspective is not there wankers!!

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