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Q: how do you determine the appropriate size of government?
Typical A of clueless Koolaid Drinking Rightwinger, as demonstrated here by PonyBoy: "when they're in control or hold the majority of debt... they've gone too far."
Seriously, please tell me where in history governments don't run at a net debt ratio? Governments issue money. They are the last backstop. From the "coin of the realm" to the modern Fed backed monetary system. You guys just don't understand how these things scale and how money works on a macro level. You think that economies work like Joe Schmoo's corner store. It just doesn't work that way. Ever.
Sure limited expenditures by government are an ideal, and a good thing to shoot for, but governments don't actually run that way. Ever.
And if they do it means that thay are a) small and unable to respond to the needs that the vaulted "free market" doesn't nor can address and b) tend to be highly, highly criminally corrupt since the cop/lawyer/judge is not earning a living wage and thus can be bought off and paid to look the other way.
You guys live in a fucking fantasy world. You really, really do. You don't understand the first principles of how government works and how it has always worked.
Of course, then you say "Well government in principle is the problem! We don't need it!"
Great. Ask the Haitians how they're tiny, underfunded and corrupt government are dealing with not only a gigantic natural disaster but with the results of lack of even minimal building code enforcement.