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    So what you're saying is that 'all men are created equal' means that 'all men need to be equal?'

    Besides, did you see the part where Jefferson said, 'created'? I agree, we're all for the most part created equal. My fucking point, which you are either avoiding on purpose or didn't somehow digest when you read the post is that to try and force equality throughout a persons whole life is in fact "extreme idealism, it's unattainable."

    I really dislike when people think that 'all men created equal' means that 'everyone must be equal'.. it doesn't. That's not the spirit of his statement. The spirit of the statement is that no man should have less rights than another. I know I know, he had slaves.. but the spirit of the sentiment is what it is. If you really think it means that if my neighbor gets a steak then I should equally get.. a steak.

    I feel the same way when people say that 'promote the general welfare' means that somehow government was supposed to provide for us: healthcare, food, etc. It doesn't mean that. It was meant that Congress can provide laws that promote general welfare that transcends state law.. providing laws for a nation as opposed to laws provided by the state.

    "And this is why we fail." Oh really? I think we fail because the general Americans reading comprehension has gone to shit these days.

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    • i'm more equeler than you all arez.PonyBoy
    • So national education and health care shouldn't be goals for a democratic country?Mimio
    • You speak like the dozens of other industrialized nations don't have a functioning system.Mimio
    • That's not what I said. There are obviously things that we're provided that help us as a nation. But to say that we all mustmathinc
    • have access to the same lifestyle is idealistic. That's not the 'equality' that Jefferson was talking about. That's all I'm saying.mathinc
    • saying.mathinc
    • Name a group who is saying we all should are guaranteed the same lifestyle. You can't, again...DrBombay
    • your constant yapping on this forum screams that, dobsPonyBoy
    • Fuck off Kevin, you do a good share of yapping.DrBombay
    • :)
      This mean we're friends again?      PonyBoy
    • No, again your ideology gets in the way of you being a good friend to people.DrBombay
    • please elaborate on my ideology and why it makes me a bad friendPonyBoy
    • You lack compassion and all you care about is money.DrBombay
    • You mocked your friends' bad breaks.DrBombay
    • Is that enough yet?DrBombay
    • mathinc is correct. we establish equal rights and we're equal in that regard alone. healthcare isnt a right, nor is education.
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    • but peopel should see a strong education is the only thign that can keep those equal rights. why i dont mind tax money going to that. last thign i need is gangs of kids robbing my hoem while im at work
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    • for edu. unfortunately not all people are smart enough to see that so its mandated, not very nice, but a necessary evil
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