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  • PonyBoy0

    My main objection to this debate is that humans do not have 'a right' to healthcare.

    You do not have a right to have someone come and take care of you.

    When you start placing demands in a bill that say you must buy health insurance when you don't need it... it's the same thing as saying 'it's up to you take care of this sick guy over here that you don't know when in fact I could very well have my own set of other issues completely outside of health that are eating me alive financially...

    ... bringing me to my final point: This is always going to be about money... and not about your well-being... no matter what fucking bill gets pushed through. To keep saying 'Kevin, all you care about is not paying taxes' or 'all you care about is money'...

    ... YOU'RE DAMED FUCKING RIGHT.

    I'm in debt w/my OWN health bills well over $150k RIGHT NOW. I have to have open-heart surgery to repair something I was born with of which I CANNOT afford given the current costs now... this I'm told will set me back another $150k. RIDICULOUS.

    So... get the FUCKING COST DOWN.

    Don't tax the fuck out of everyone and expect everyone to get on the same fucking path you're on. I don't. My heart IS NOT YOUR PROBLEM. You don't' have to worry about it... and I'm GLAD you don't. :) I mean that w/all that's left of my heart. ;)

    Please... PLEASE... pass a bill that just gets the costs down via regulation but allows healthcare to remain an 'industry' where I have options / choices... where the competition allows the price to come down - taxing everyone an extra amount to try get everyone on the same page... does... not... work.

    Tort reform - ASAP... ease the FRIVOLOUS burden of heavy lawsuits on doctors and insurance companies and you wouldn't have nearly the insane costs that we do now...

    ... it's alllll aobut MONEY, guys... it's not about you caring about me or your neighbor - the majority of us DO CARE... but we're a) not doctors and b) don't have the MONEY to help.

    get the cost down... then get lost, gov... that's all I ask.

    NO GOV. OPTION... that's fucking STUPID (which it's not going to happen anyway)... but that option will not 'create competition'... it'll merely lower the standards of healthcare as good coverage will eventually slip away to that 'mediocre' plan we'd all be on under uncle sam.

    I'm not heartless - I'm logical. My logic dictates that I love all you... and I do... especially the good DoctorBom / dob...

    I find it heartless to expect others to foot the bill for me or you... it's not right to expect that from our fellow human beings who (as I mentioned above) have their own trials / tribulations / aspirations in play.

    • you wouldn't survive 5 minutes in a foreign country.DrBombay
    • The rest of the world is wrong, America is right.DrBombay
    • I can kick in $15 with ten thousand other people to save your life.Mimio
    • that's out of love though, mimio... and I'd do the same for any of you... hell... i'd kick in $16 :)PonyBoy
    • So because you wish to have someone assist you with your problems everyone else in the nation should follow suit?EightyDeuce
    • It is immoral to let you die. So let's find the best way to pay for it and get on with our lives.Mimio
    • to expect everyone to do so is asking alot though - just get the costs down... then there's no issue...right?PonyBoy
    • *not haveEightyDeuce
    • EightyDeuce - it'd be nice if folks could look to themselves and their families - but of course this isn't always the case...PonyBoy
    • ... therefor I feel it more 'fair' and loving (or moral Mimio ;) ) to reduce the cost so we can in fact all afford it.PonyBoy
    • Entire nations in Europe and Asia are immoral!DrBombay
    • You'd think the right would be in competition to "out-moral" the Euros.Mimio

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