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"New ones are needed and those lie in the removal of such governmental distortions (which are are to say the false hand of a god, which will eventually have to face the reality that its false) that create the conditions."
You really don't have a complete picture do you? Just like your belief (and I use that word purposefully) in a "free market" you somehow believe in a world where governments or other coalitions of the powerful don't "distort" the landscape. It's a utopian dream.
It's like saying "You know, except for the distortions of gravity by large mass objects, my theory of the universe would work perfectly. So you see, we have to eliminate all this distorting matter..."
The social space will always be distorted, or rather shaped, by the balance of powerful interests within it. In your ideological commitment to limit effective, democratic republican government, you eliminate the one part, historically fought for over millenia, that gives the little guy a fair shake and a say in the proceedings. All governments are not equal, so to just say "less government" is really, in essence meaningless. I would like LESS government dictated by oligarchies, powerful economic interests, warlords and despots. I would like MORE government by transparent, accountable, elected institutions. The better we can make the latter and more we can eliminate the influence of the former the better.
I don't understand why so many of those on the right side of the scale fail to see that their ideology leads to atomization of individuals who stand zero chance against the colluding efforts (i.e. "distortions") of vested economic interests. Your conception of freedom works great if your a 18th century agrarian, the "free market" being the collection of you and your local farmers and the dry goods proprietor, with the only external threat you have to worry about being a wayward bear or pack of wolves.
Furthermore, you guys ALWAYS make the exception about "well, the government should provide the military". Uh-huh. Even the Founders agreed without exception the one most vile distortion of public civic order was a standing army and the demands it places, economic and politically, on civil society. Yet this is the one thing your side INSISTS government should do.
Remove the plank from your own eye.
- actually your anecdote is using natural factors with natural factors. gov distortion is in no way natural********
- explain how the distortions of government by securing school loans made the education system better with skyrocketing costs********
- and by the way i have no side, u take a side u will get all the evils that go with it.********
- oh and your less gov statement is an impossibility with the size of gov and controls in place********
- you have no side? WTF are you talking about? You are against a side. That makes you on a side, monkeyboy.DrBombay
- Don't waste your time, he's just trolling it up. My $ is on either Dinky or JazXukit
- Wouldn't surprise me...DrBombay
- Cmon he suggested Somalia as an example of good health care - he's obviously not seriousukit
- not good healthcare, just unregulated criteria. its a joke answer to a joke question.********
- and blue id liek to paint u a picture later of the hand of god of government sinc eu dont seem to understand it, but now work********
- i gotta go to work.********
- I asked for a country with unregulated that actually gets better outcomes, but whatever dude...keep trolling Dukit
- actually your anecdote is using natural factors with natural factors. gov distortion is in no way natural