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Simple, insightful and true observations:
"You're worth more money when you're sick, in trouble with the law, or below the poverty line. Everything follows from that fact."
http://twitter.com/brainsturbato…"Elite power is self-organizing. The rules are iterative, simple and far more effective than mere conspiracy."
http://twitter.com/brainsturbato…In a corollary to the first point above, here is Michael Pollan from a superb op-ed in the NYTimes today:
"There’s lots of money to be made selling fast food and then treating the diseases that fast food causes. One of the leading products of the American food industry has become patients for the American health care industry."
You can rail all you want about weak-willed people and "freedom of choice" that the market supposedly gives, but the people who make that argument tend to overlook the 2nd point above. There's am inbuilt structural bias towards the haves and away from the have-nots. In fact, it's in the haves favor to blame the have-nots problems on their apparent moral and ethical failings while hiding the fact that the dame is rigged. Like, say, living in urban or rural poor areas where fast food is your primary and most affordable source of nourishment.
Once American decided that freedom was about lifestyle and consumer choices and not the General Welfare and the Common Good, well, it was basically all over at that point. Oddly enough the loudest voices today use the rhetoric of the 2nd thing there to support the first.
/rant- Oh, Pollan's op-ed:
http://www.nytimes.c…TheBlueOne - so is he demonizing choice or the choices?********
- becuase i cant see freedom without consequence as actual freedom. as long as people abuse freedom and get bailed out they wont understand it********
- they wont understand it. freedom also means responsibilties for ones actions and or the hand their dealt in life********
- So freedom for you is like the executioner asking you if you want to be hanged or shot then?TheBlueOne
- no freedom is like me asking myself rather i want to live well or die********
- you can do that in countries that have health care, fuckstick.DrBombay
- that is irrelevant to what is being talked about. but no youre wrong. if peopel have to pay for tothers to have healthcare instead of them********
- healthcare instead of choosing to then they dont have that freedom. and theyre held responsible for choices of others********
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- im jsut trying to understand what this observation is trying to say. sounds liek people dont have choice...not sure********
- I fucking hate you.DrBombay
- and i could careless about u. unless your hot broad id like to stick********
- Oh, Pollan's op-ed: