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Well I am angry but I think a reasonable discussion is possible...designbot is a smart guy.
But @designbot...to your point above...how? How have I been misinformed? The info is out there...it's readily available. No one is disputing the fact that Dick Armey, lobbyist and former House Leader, is the guy who set up FreedomWorks, which is the main group coordinating the tea parties.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=…
Here's a just a random sampling...
http://briefingroom.thehill.com/…
Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey (R) said Wednesday that the grassroots Tea Party movement is the new voice conservative America.
In an op-ed in the Atlanta Journal Constitution, Armey said these Tea Parties are more the leader of the right than Republican National Committee Chair Michael Steele, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin or Rush Limbaugh.
"Frustrated Americans began taking their grievances to the streets and the tea party movement was born," Armey wrote. "Just as the original Boston Tea Party was a grass-roots rebellion against overbearing government, tea party participants are reacting to government that has grown too large."
Armey has been credited with at least partially fueling the movement, which he made reference to in the op-ed. Armey wrote that conservative Americans are tired of big spending and these Tea Parties are an indication of how widespread that feeling is.
"The tea partiers want to see the cash spigot turned off," he wrote.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/i…
"As anyone with a functioning memory should know, the Republicans under the leadership of Armey and his cronies Newt Gingrich and Tom DeLay proceeded to rack up excesses in spending and boodling that made the old Democratic congressional leaders look quite stingy. When he was asked once why he and his GOP comrades were chomping so much more federal pork than the Democrats ever did, he replied bluntly: “To the victors go the spoils.”
Like so many self-styled populists of both parties in Washington, Armey packed his own golden parachute when he left Congress. At the same time that he took over the leadership of the “grass-roots” group that eventually became FreedomWorks, he also joined a major corporate lobbying firm. The Web site of DLA Piper, one of the capital’s biggest bipartisan law and lobbying outfits, boasts of Armey’s influence among his colleagues."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ja…
FreedomWorks is run by registered lobbyist Dick Armey, and if they're not "organizing" the Tea parties, it's news to him. From a letter he wrote on March 10:
FreedomWorks has been organizing many of these "tea parties" and we are listing the details on our website IamWithRick.com
If you visit the website, you can rsvp for an event near you, and you can download guidelines to organizing a tea party in your home town if there isn't one being planned already.
On the Freedomworks website, it says: "If you are not able to organize or attend a Taxpayer Tea Party, you can still help the cause by donating or buying a t-shirt.
So two points here - Armey was the guy who helped create the freakin' deficit! He didn't run a Congress that said no to spending, they said yes to everything.
Secondly, there's a reason for this strategy. Because after George Bush the image of the Republican party had sank so low they no longer were able to be effective advocates for the policies they wanted.
So what did the lobbying interests do? They went outside the Republican party and created this movement. Same thing Microsoft figured out with X Box, Bing and Zune. When your own brand is so tarnished by the shit you've pulled, you hire the same people and do the same thing, but give it a different name.
"I'm not a Republican, I'm a concerned citizen and a libertarian" is probably what a lot of these guys think. But what's the end result?
The end result is that you will end up reelecting the same special interests to Congress that ran up the debt, got us into the Iraq War, and basically sank this country into the shitter. The end result is that you are just another foot soldier in Dick's army (sry, couldn't resist).
- Yes..I like designbot.
*hands designbot a beerTheBlueOne - I like designbot too, but he gives the righty koolaid a bit more credit than other views.DrBombay
- *hands beers around...
Cheers guys :)designbot - In complete honesty if any of you all were in my town, I'd go out for a beer no question.designbot
- ditto. Oh...*hands ukit a well deserved beer as wellTheBlueOne
- ukit thanks for the post man....shit I am busy now...but I'll read this when I get home :)designbot
- yeah...all i'm saying is consider w/ an open mind. these republicans aren't the solution.ukit
- Yes..I like designbot.