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  • rafalski0

    You work for a company and feel underpaid. You want a raise, so you go to your boss to negotiate. That's pretty normal for me, that's what I do. I get a rise or not and I decide to stay or go, whatever.
    I might be let go as well, that's a risk you're taking when you ask for a raise. It it's their company, not yours. If they fire you for asking for a justified raise, they're not worth working for anyway.

    In order to have more leverage, to increase your negotiating power you can get your colleagues to ask for a raise collectively. That's an union. It's still ok as well (but I'd suspect some of the group deserve a raise more, some do less). The employer might give you all a raise, or not. He can fire you all and replace with a new crew, but hiring new untrained staff is always an additional cost for him. That gives you the extra leverage. It's ok, it's still grown-ups negotiating.

    It might happen, you and your colleagues, unsatisfied with the wages, come to work and sabotage the business by occupying and not working. You're causing it a loss instead of going looking for a better job. You call it a "strike". Well that's not ok, the employer should fire the fuck all of you and deduct the loss from your final wages.

    Well, not in the EU. In the EU the unions have the right to terrorize the employer. They can stop working and demand to be paid. That's a plain robbery to me.

    The long term result of unions getting this unjust power on society is not only business being less efficient and economy going down. It leads to shrinking job market. No wonder unionized countries have the biggest unemployment. In becomes the employer's market and wages are lower.

    Did you know that Reagan boosted employment by relaxing firing regulations? When it's easy to fire, you're not afraid to hire. The result is lots of jobs. Lots of jobs means employers competing for the employee and wages risng. It's employee's market then.

    • You're only looking at one side of the union. They've also made sure that employees can't be over-worked, in unhealthy conditions, etc.Melanie
    • ...environments.Melanie

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