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- lowimpakt1
this is a good interview with a french journalist that was a hostage of daesh
- interesting, great insight from the inside, we've been hearing more and more of this_niko
- isis was hurt by exodus of muslims to nonbeliever lands in europe- made paris attacks to close the borders. <great pt.sarahfailin
- yep, death cult confirmed :(georgesIII
- shit he almost got me, good nlp practitioner, even have the hooks and gestures,georgesIII
- _niko0
The brits are debating joining the airstrikes against isis, question is, does bombing actually do anything? it seems that they have all moved underground in elaborate tunnels and bunkers and maybe the only people who are getting hit are innocent civilians who aren't trying to hide underground.
Just an excuse for western countries to prop up some military spending? Job creation for arms companies?
- Well, if it encourages the cunts to expend their energies digging rat holes instead of hoying gays off rooftops, that's a little something, eh?detritus
- (but sure - the British position at the moment is shadowing MeTooism by red-faced right wing armchair generals)detritus
- 'red-cheeked', evendetritus
- Bombing prevents them from building out infrastructure and accumulating military hardware. It doesn't fight the root of the problem but it sure helps a lot ifzarkonite
- Daesh isn't running around in tanks and has massive barracks, etc.zarkonite
- bombing fuels the fire at the "root" of the problem, for suremonospaced
- majority of the airstrikes results in civilian slaughter. just look at the results of american airstrikes - isis has not been weakened at all.dorf
- _niko2
from the atlantic article above:
After its battle in Dabiq, Cerantonio said, the caliphate will expand and sack Istanbul. Some believe it will then cover the entire Earth, but Cerantonio suggested its tide may never reach beyond the Bosporus. An anti-Messiah, known in Muslim apocalyptic literature as Dajjal, will come from the Khorasan region of eastern Iran and kill a vast number of the caliphate’s fighters, until just 5,000 remain, cornered in Jerusalem. Just as Dajjal prepares to finish them off, Jesus—the second-most-revered prophet in Islam—will return to Earth, spear Dajjal, and lead the Muslims to victory.
This reads like a bad WWE script, Jesus comes out of nowhere, fans go nuts, but switches sides and helps the Muslims with a folding chair to the head of the west lol.
- Those people are still in Dark Ages. They didnt evolved.Ben99
- lol When I read that I flipped my shit too. Jesus returns to fight for the Muslims. That should get the evangelicals scratching their heads.sarahfailin
- Ben992
- I read this last week. REALLY eye opening. Before you keep asking "why would they do X?" read this. ppl keep asking questions and isis is TELLING us the answerssarahfailin
- ''ISIS is no mere collection of psychopaths. Its a religious group with carefully considered beliefs, among them that its a key agent of the coming apocalypse''Ben99
- granted the answers are bat-shit insane, but it's important to fully appreciate that if you're going to understand ISIS.sarahfailin
- monospaced0
Imagine if we dumbo-dropped thousands of kilos of heroine directly into the heart of ISIS camps. Let them become junkies.
- Why? They already have religion.detritus
- they already are junkies:
http://www.independe…Gnash - Airdropping women into ISIS camps could workyuekit
- amphetamines just make them more agro... the heroine would just turn them into junkies... but there are too many bad side effects for the societymonospaced
- ah, yes,Gnash
- georgesIII2
sigh
- Ben990
When and how do you think all this ''terrorists'' shit will end?
- Peace...no peace!utopian
- It's hard to say. Americans want ISIS crushed, but don't want American boots on the ground.mg33
- Its like arresting a drug dealer, the next day there's a new one replacing the other. How can you end this? They need to go to the head of all this.Ben99
- But USA wont touch Saudi Arabia, so we're fucked.Ben99
- The big problem is that even if an overwhelming force destroys them in the ME, their sympathizers in other places just grow stronger.mg33
- I have a bad feeling that we will be watching this for 5, 10, 15+ years to be honest. If not them, whoever comes next.mg33
- They are capitalizing on the misfortune of many, promising them money, women, a better life by joining them. Disillusioned men with nothing to live formg33
- can be enticed by so little.mg33
- In Quebec, people are mixing everything up and lots and lots of people are getting super racist towards anything that look muslim.Ben99
- people are getting their news and info on Facebook from sketchy news websites and from people comments. its getting out of control.Ben99
- and the more they hate muslims, the more muslims hate them. ... that can lead to frustrated young muslims easily influencable. by djihadists propagangda.Ben99
- Yep. And lots of the GOP candidates in the US, Trump especially, are stirring that up big time.mg33
- There needs to be a significant outcry from major Muslim nations about this, because it hurts them, too.mg33
- totallyBen99
- and yet the neighboring countries will not even accept the refugees, that's just bizarre, no?formed
- PeterPancake2
Here is just one example of those 'missing' muslim voices:
http://www.raqqa-sl.com/en/It may be somewhat telling that I only came across their group because of the news of two of their members' deaths.
http://www.independent.co.uk/new…Braver than you:
- proper braveryFax_Benson
- there are plenty of tolerant Muslims willing to denounce IS etc. Too many people don't ask or don't want to listen.Fax_Benson
- share them.uan
- chukkaphob0
- They just want us all to paranoid and be afraid. Why would they release their ''tricks'' and methods?Ben99
- How do they pass this at customs?Ben99
- Or metal detectors or x-rays etc.ETM
- the narrative is that security at Sharm al-Sheikh (sp?) was and probably still is utterly compromised.detritus
- If that firecracker took down a jet plane, we are all in real trouble. - Praise Allahutopian
- Fax_Benson1
I can't pretend to know enough about it to say whether this is on the money or not, but it seems to make a reasonable point.
- interesting readingBen99
- Good read. France is surely playing into their hands to declare war so readily. Exactly the reaction they must have expected.sarahfailin
- France didn't really have a choice, it's what angry people will demand. If they actually do anything differently remains to be seen.formed
- HijoDMaite3
I've been using this video to explain to my daughter the problems in the Middle East. It's a basic and quick rundown of the history and the major players that have helped to create the current situation. We have watched it together a few times since he speaks very fast. It may not be perfect but at least it explains things chronologically.
Well made imo, sorry I only know of a Spanish version w/ English subtitles.
- GeorgesIV0
it's literally disgusting seeing how cnn, bbc and other so called free newspaper are treating this situation,
every fuckn article I read is about how russia is exacerbating the situation, how NATO and the US will have to step in to help the rebels,
what is this fuckn century we're leaving in, so bizzare, yet everyone buys it, those are the same cunt that sold us the last 15 years of war for democracy, this is the same NATO who placed a no fly zone over libya and bomb them to pieces, this is the same US who destroyed [take a dart, open a world map and trow it somewhere, name country]
how can you still fuckn trust them, this is what makes me even madder,
- not leaving but living, u get my angah!GeorgesIV
- if you're the US, NATO, UN, Turkey, etc etc, then Russia are exacerbating the situation. Western media reporting from a western perspective.Fax_Benson
- main stream journalism is clearly biased.
alternative: research the opinion of the other side (who is also biased) and make your own opinion.uan - I've been looking for a free independent press for years now, but it only got worse in the last couple of years.uan
- the mainstream media never discusses the geopolitics that are really behind decisions on both sidesyuekit
- The BBC does to an extent, beyond the surfaceFax_Benson
- ^ what does it means?GeorgesIV
- Bluejam0
- http://twitter.com/i…Bluejam
- Missed a trick there -
"Get outta my dreams, get into my car
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Oh I said hey (Hey) you (You) be my Kuffar"detritus - haha nice 1Bluejam
- all jew os ™. does anyone else read this on the flag?yurimon
- it's arabic script. different signs and reading direction than latin. it's the shahada. https://en.wikipedia…
stop being an anti-semite.uan - im part semite.yurimon
- GeorgesIV0
the difference is that the syrian gov never ask the us for jack shit, the funny thing is that you have the CIA coming out to complain that russia is hitting their "people",
so finally it come out, that isis is xe and a creation of the 3 letter alphabet, just like was alquaeda1!
btw for those complaining of my tone, the situation is so absurd, ffs the americans are complaining about russia bombing a country that invited them to do exactly that, at least putin is not pretending to do it for some bs democratic goal
- at least Russia has clear cut goals. The US has no idea who they're helping, who their friends or enemies are or what the fuck they're doing._niko
- Yes, Russia has no hidden agenda.isleptwithsirenstonight
- Russia's hidden agenda are it's clear cut goals._niko
- everyone has an agenda, but contrary to the US, russia didn't invade 3 countries, killing and maiming millions for no other reasons then selling weapons...GeorgesIV
- I find it so absurd that you've seen what happen to all the countries the us tried to liberate, they are floods of refugees escaping wars cause by the us andGeorgesIV
- and allies, but still russia is bad, because they are defending a country they have interest in, what a fuckn weirld world we live in that they are the bad guysGeorgesIV
- Russia definitely supported invasions of more than 3 countries...just go back to Cold War days where Russia supported communist uprisings around the world.youngdesigner
- They haven't been as active as the U.S. recently but it's really because Russia was weakened so much after Soviet Union collapsed. Not because they don't want tyoungdesigner
- GeorgesII0
People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.
Benjamin Franklin
it's sad that some peeps here are ready to drop every right they have at the first BANG they here,
seriously, how many statist are there in this board,
I always wonder how they can get away with doing the same thing over and over, using the same modus operandi in each county, than I realised most people still have no idea how their government, financial market, drug market, weapons market, etc, fuckn work, they don't care as long as they have food on their table, they don't care as long as the bomb are being dropped far away from them,
you can post links of banks recycling drug money, that most of the 3 letters agency are into insider trading, drug dealing and plain old war making,
you can even show them that "it's true, We tortured some folks" doesn't apply anymore to only brown people, that they are currently secret prison on their soil but also on many other locations, including planes, boat, etc,
they will say you are simple minded, that you are a conspiracy theorist, nut job,
then it comes out as true and it's the usual "I already knew about that"
it shows their insecurity in speaking of subject they do not understand, instead of asking for source, they plain old attack you by doing the tired, "Do you think the whole government is evil, lololol" ,
so I'll post something that will fly a thousand mile over their head, bait incoming
- I agree with you but there you are taking the holier than thou attitude again. What exactly are YOU doing?set
- Not that easy is it fella?set
- Ben Franklin was a free mason illuminati grandmaster, he was just messing with you with that quoteukit2
- ...and for the love of all...please proofread.marychain
- lol, marychainGnash
