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- son0
- you must be really proud. done anything useful with it lately?scarabin
- did you bother reading that article, btwscarabin
- wow, a glance over a chapter from high school biology, are you for fucking serious?monospaced
- you 2 are a riot...glad you're baffledson
- still waiting for you to demonstrate your excellence instead of just trying to convince people of itscarabin
- if you have to tell someone you're superior you're not.scarabin
- we're not baffled, genetic dominance is the basics... what is your point?monospaced
- http://augoeides.org…detritus
- son0
- not enough melanin?scarabin
- no see...thats your issueson
- superior genetics sure hasn't helped you much. got anything else? a personality maybe?scarabin
- yet you're inquiring from someone thats that low?son
- accomplished anything lately with all your melanin?scarabin
- you keep replying...something is workingson
- did it help you "run that shit" and "get that paper"?scarabin
- you're a dung beetle that i'm controlling...your responses are receipts...so yes & yes beeeeyitchson
- always with the beetle shot. as if it weren't lame enough the first time. what can i say, i'm attracted to shitscarabin
- scarabin0
so lemme get this straight, son–
your idea is that because carbon is a great conductor, melanin has a lot of carbon, and black people have a lot of melanin in their skin, that black people must be good conductors... of something. the universe. also, you believe melanin allows black people to create physical matter by channeling spiritual energy to break apart molecular bonds in the body. therefore, by swallowing over $400 of plant melanin you bought on the internet you're going to become uber-african and have super powers– presumably the ability to manifest matter with plant-enhanced black people mindwaves.
do you have a parent or guardian who's looking for you?
- son0
- scarabin0
something something black people are better than you
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- son0
- lol, it seemed cool for the first few sentences, then went full on weirdmonospaced
- yeah you would say that...so hows that sunscreen treatin ya?son
- lol, you really believe melanin allows people to communicate with "the immortals" and shape the world?monospaced
- burned again eh? i say move to nordic places...closer to caves & you may feel home.son
- btw, melanin is just highly concentrated carbon, all living things have...makes blood dark too.son
- I know, I was asking if you really believe concentrated melanin allows for those powersmonospaced
- I mean... c'mon, you're making some race thing out of this and not providing some point of view on itmonospaced
- @ son
"are you for serious dog?"moldero - a review of the book: "rather strange, repetitive and racist. Grammatical errors, and errors in basic logic are abundant. If you are thinking about buying it, read a few sample pages. The writing style is uneducated, and makes for a very unpleasant read..."scarabin
- are thinking about buying it, read a few sample pages. The writing style is uneducated, and makes for a very unpleasant read..."scarabin
- "melanin: a key to freedom" by richard kingscarabin
- soooo...the kid from the movie can see dead people but I can't? lolson
- did you just bring up hollywood fiction "sixth sense" to justify your strange voodoo science?scarabin
- its the origin of that tree of life on your website. call it strange if you want...the cave treated you bad...son
- sorry, WHAT is the origin of the tree of life on his site?monospaced
- are you saying white people are white because they lived in caves? are you for fucking serious?monospaced
- you did live in caves and you're white because your genes are recessiveson
- "you lived in caves", said internet guy from his computerscarabin
- Iceman's Inheritance was written offline by your fellow pinkson
- lol shit man dis nigga funnymoldero
- son0
- utopian0
- I guess you just cant photoshop displaced anger after all.yurimon
- and you can't photoshop the truth out of thesemonospaced
- ukit20
^ If you don't trust scientists, then why would you trust ONE guy with a psychology degree who claims he's discovered psychic powers?
All I'm saying, extend the same skepticism you feel towards the government and global warming to Dean Radin and the ancient aliens guy...then at least you'lll be consistent.
- Just a point that science can fall in the way of mirroring religion if one was inclined to use to controlyurimon
- yurimon0
ok... ok...
- ya, I would say that's generally true.Gnash
- most people don't have the inclination - or resources - to find out for themselvesGnash
- It works both ways. Look at homeopathy -- people lap that shit upGnash
- It works though.Morning_star
- Like placebos work.Morning_star
- homeopathy doesn't "work" lolmonospaced
- In your opinion mono, does the Placebo Effect work?Morning_star
- Morning Star is right. But it's the placebo effect that's working, not the homeo solutionsGnash
- and not for everyone that uses them.Gnash
- Homeopathy, in my opinion, is another way of dressing up Placebos. If it works, and it does, what's the harm.Morning_star
- The harm happens when someone believes it'll cure their cancer, or something like that.Gnash
- and they postpone, or avoid, treatments that have been proved effectiveGnash
- The placebo effect is definitely something the science and medical communities are aware of, because they sometimes work.monospaced
- but placebo should not be considered outside science, that would be stupid to think it wasmonospaced
- Gnash0
^^ wow, that's not science, that's advertising.
- don't confuse snake-oil salesmen with the scientific communityGnash
- but I do understand the point you are trying to make.Gnash
- How you know science you are getting isnt motivated by anything..yurimon
- Science is motivated by the same things we all are; money, fame, ego. But what was showed was advertising. not the sameGnash
- .. the sameGnash
- I do get it, though. science is wrong all the time.Gnash
- in fact, the key to science, is being wrongGnash
- yurimon0
Listen guys relax and buy more scientifically proven stuff...science is the truth ok
- fucking dumbass, science also figured out the truth about thesemonospaced
- < Missing the point as alwaysset
- I didn't miss any point, I get the point. I may not have countered correctly, but yuri's argument isn't soundmonospaced
- Hey Mono, here's an idea. Why don't you come late to the party, make some ill-informed, generalist statements and then run away when someone challenges your perspective. Just a thought.Morning_star
- run away when someone challenges your second-hand perspective Just a thought.Morning_star
- I'm not late to the party, lolmonospaced
- :)Morning_star
- Morning_star0
"...but the idea of a new kind of unknown particle seems reasonable based on what we already know, psychic powers is a big leap"
This is where we disagree, it's not a big leap. Even if you take a very quick look at the link i provided above you'll see that there is a huge amount of empirical data and evidence supporting the existence of Psi Effects. Not to mention the tens of thousands of years that humans have been experiencing the phenomena.
Do I have psychic abilities? No more or less than any other human. Have i experienced someone bending a spoon? Yes, it's a neat party trick.
Have I seen someone predict the future? Not in the way you mean.However, the relatively common experience of NDEs (Near Death Experiences) raise the question of mind being seperate to the physical brain. There is some compelling evidence, particularly the 10 year study by the heart surgeon Dr Pim Van Lommel.
Dean Radins experiments concerning the influence of thought on the double slit experiment are fascinating.
And Rupert Sheldrakes series of experiments concerning the Sense of being stared at and Dogs that know when there owners are coming home are compelling.
Not to mention studies on the Placebo Effect, Murmeration, Herd Communication, Lactating Mothers (yep, it's a freaky thing)--------
"It shouldn't really require poring over statistics to prove this stuff... "
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How else would you give it scientific credibility?- Give up, honestly. Fruitless debate.set
- Fruitless as in people who cant comprehend without personal experience. where that is lackingyurimon
- As if any fucking religious nut has had ACTUAL experience with god, a miracle or an angel. We know it's fucking bullshit.monospaced
- The whole point of science is that someone is getting as close as possible to actual experience with something.monospaced
- Who mentioned religion? For someone with such a hatred for religions you bring it up more than anyone.Morning_star
- HAVE YOU READ THE ORIGINAL POST? THIS IS ABOUT RELIGION AND SCIENCEmonospaced
- I'm just going along with the original idea that science isn't a belief system... like religionmonospaced
- It has you believing none of the aforementioned stuff is real. How is that not a belief system...?set
- non belief isn't a belief system, like "off" isn't a channel on tvmonospaced
- mono, you claim "We know it's fucking bullshit." There's your belief right there. Or are you claiming you ACTUALLY know.Morning_star
- I KNOW there aren't angels or miracles, just like I know there isn't a Santa Claus or a monster in the closet at nightmonospaced
- Hahaha!monospaced
- "Do I have psychic abilities? No more or less than any other human." So basically no you haven't?ukit2
- You know, the difference between this and something like dark matter or the Higgs is that you would expect those to only be documented in extremely difficult experimental studies. Whereas psychic powers supposedly interact with our everyday lives, on a scale that people can see and experience directly.ukit2
- only be documented in extremely difficult experimental studies. Whereas psychic powers supposedly interact with our everyday lives, on a scale that people can see and experience directly.ukit2
- interact with our everyday lives, on a scale that people can see and experience directly.ukit2
- Honestly, I don't know,Morning_star
- And yet in all of years spent studying it, not a single video or straightforward demonstration of these amazing powers...kind of strange don't you think?ukit2
- amazing powers...kind of strange don't you think? :Pukit2
- I do however trust the results and interpretation of research that I've pointed out.Morning_star
- detritus0
“It shouldn't really require poring over statistics to prove this stuff... ”
It sort of should, though. Even if it's just a somewhat verifiable instance of One (not Son). That'd be a start.
Where's there evidence — any at all — of any any of this pseudo meta science in exhibition? Nowhere. Hence Randi's slightly farcical million dollar prize. It's not intended as Science, it's just intended to try and tempt some sort of evidence out of the woodwork.
At least Science knows that Dark Matter, et al, are hapless cludges, really in need of cleaning up. Hence, more Science.
That's kind of its point.
- It's only the scientific ignoratti who assume Science knows everything, that Science is comfortable with Dark Energiesdetritus
- Scientists (big S, seeing as we're there already) think the exact opposite.detritus
- Evidence galore: http://www.deanradin…Morning_star
- Shouldn't require statistics, because if what they were claiming was true, it should be easy to demonstrateukit2
- set0
I'm going to post this again.
- ukit20
Meh...I feel like we're arguing in circles here. Look back at my earlier answers. I wouldn't consider "dark matter" to be an established theory, but the idea of a new kind of unknown particle seems reasonable based on what we already know, psychic powers is a big leap.
Anyway you seem to to believe pretty strongly in this...do you personally believe you have psychic abilities? Have you ever seen someone bend a spoon or predict the future? It shouldn't really require poring over statistics to prove this stuff...
- Morning_star0
"That's kind of what I'm getting at though...if you can't begin to explain the nature and mechanics of it then it isn't reasonable."
Again, this is EXACTLY the issue there is with Dark Matter. No one knows the nature of Dark Matter yet from your perspective it's OK to consider it as a pretty well-formed scientific reality and it isn't.
You can't dismiss one without having to dismiss the other. The same argument you used can be applied to DM. "We only know what 5% of the entire universe is therefore... Dark Matter and Energy"
Discard your prejudices and look at the evidence.
