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- monospaced0
Still fighting over ancient religious beliefs, I see.
- Some things never change. My God is better than yo' God!utopian
- It's sad that religious beliefs are at the root of so much hate. Take it away and there's no reason to kill.monospaced
- Or, more specifically, that religious divides are connected directly to money and power. Nothing new, but f'd up.monospaced
- are you really sure of what you're saying mono, people didn't kill themselve for ideology instead of religion before?GeorgesIV
- I'm saying that it's nothing new, that it's been going on for a long time.monospaced
- my opinion is that it saddens me that in this day and age it's still such a significant part of the drive behind the violencemonospaced
- Religion is for the pawns to act on events. people who run the wars its money and killing the pawnsyurimon
- Right. Money and power are significant, I said that, but in the end it's Sunni vs Shiite fightingmonospaced
- v.little religious significance in this situationfadein11
- Really? I thought it was Sunni on one side and Shiite on the other.monospaced
- formed0
What I find stunning is how many in media are just taking Kerry and co at their word. There is no question that "hey, damn, it was all wrong last time, so maybe...". Just "chemicals are morally bad, we must attack".
I can't imagine Obama, or Kerry, would come out looking good. We all know what will happen, more or less...nothing. Some great "strategic" hits, great videos, "success"...and then more chaos we won't hear about.
I am curious what the UN inspectors find in this time. And if there is any "proof" that Assad did gas his own.
Now, back to the important stuff...how about our debt ceiling debacle we aren't hearing anything about this time around? That's not even 'real' but will probably impact the overall world more.
- GeorgesIV0
Hey formed,
if at least anyone had evidence assad used the chemical weapons,
but no, we just gotta believe them, they still did not show us a shred of evidence, even ban ki moon is trying to say, "hey, lets wait for the evidence, before condemning the syrian to shock and awe""But Georges, the rebels are just fighting with stick and stones"
http://www.reuters.com/article/2…
http://notthemsmdotcom.wordpress…But Assad is gassing his own citizen, he's a mad dictator, we should overtrow him for the rebels
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-…
http://www.longwarjournal.org/ar…But you see, He won't let the UN do their work in peace
http://dissidentvoice.org/2013/0…and the most damming evidence everyone seems to have missed, the timeline of the alleged gassing
http://www.intifada-palestine.co…fuck it, I give up
- don't give up... I'm really interested in what you think should be done, and if the US should get involved at allmonospaced
- Mono, I'm totally anti war, I don't believe assad is a saint, but he's the best syria has for now, rather have him win then those beheading SOBsGeorgesIV
- I agree, I'd hate to see the US go in and escalate thismonospaced
- The Saudi government are worse but US loves them.Dillinger
- I agree with all that tooformed
- dbloc0
only 9 percent of Americans think President Barack Obama should act on Syria.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/…
- monospaced0
The very idea of the US getting involved in another war is very concerning for its citizens. We have seen what it has done, to the debt, to our perception in the world and how it's shaped our fucked up foreign politics. Most citizens here can't stomach the idea of seeing us add violence to end violence and spend billions doing it. I'm not surprised less than 9% support action.
- Americans are exhausted of wardbloc
- exactlymonospaced
- Just thinking about how much thing you could have financed with the trillion wasted in Iraq makes me madGeorgesIV
- All the way back to Korea and Vietnam toomonospaced
- It makes most of the US mad too.monospaced
- "to our debt" ha - typical priorities right there.fadein11
- Well. It's true. We hate seeing our money go to a war and not to our own issues. We pay taxes for services.monospaced
- ukit20
Another take on all this
Iraq, Iran, Syria Sign $10 Billion Gas-Pipeline Deal
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB…
The Syrian conflict and gas pipeline routes
http://philebersole.wordpress.co…
Peak oil, climate change and pipeline geopolitics driving Syria conflict
- OMG, are you saying they're not attacking to save childrenGeorgesIV
- yurimon0
- deterioratedbloc
- tanksyurimon
- you do this every fucking time, you rip on the citizens and say shit like this but you have no concept of an alternativemonospaced
- Yes, I do. If some one said give me money so I can go bomb some babys fo money. you give them the $$$?yurimon
- You're calling regular American citizens that they have no balls. What the fuck are we supposed to do?monospaced
- also, your analogy makes absolutely no sense, nor is it related to your fucking retarded complacency schtickmonospaced
- Your not very good at metaphors that's why you're atheist. Americans go along and support what happens. doing nothing is like agreeing.yurimon
- like being in agreement. If everyone wanted they could act in unison and stop this nonsense.yurimon
- but instead people do nothing and fuel the best with their money. makes sense?yurimon
- er beastyurimon
- History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people.
Martin Luther King, Jr.yurimon - people, but the appalling silence of the good people.
Martin Luther King, Jr.yurimon - Right. So all Americans acting in unison to do what? Protest? March?monospaced
- did you read? ok let me ask what you will do?yurimon
- All you said is that we're being silent. I don't know what I even CAN do. What do you propose? you haven't said shitmonospaced
- CygnusZero40
Stepping and helping them because we can and are willing is the right thing to do. I dont know a single person that is so selfish that they wouldnt want us to go there and help them. Who thinks that way? Oh yeah lets just play dumb, let them fend for themselves and let a few 100 thousand more get killed just because were sick of wars lmfao. Douchebags would think that way, and they dont represent what the US is.
- *stepping inCygnusZero4
- You totally right mate, fuck those douchebagsGeorgesIV
- wha?yurimon
- Yeah lets fire some tomahawks at them, that'll sort it. Let's open the doors for WWIII and far more casualties because of your crocodile tears. Go back to your Call off duty buddy.matnz
- crocodile tears. Go back to your Call of duty buddy.matnz
- Uh, we stood by this long..."represent" what the US is...I won't bother touching that oneformed
- You first CygnusZero4ukit2
- what a twatd_gitale
- Yes, I read, but you are just rambling mostly generalized things that aren't relevantmonospaced
- What's it like to live in one big Hollywood movie?Sep
- sine0
^ god help us all if this is what people still think after the last decade or so...
- ukit20
Syrian Kurdish leader doubts Assad would be 'so stupid' as to carry out gas attack
http://www.reuters.com/article/2…
US intel community says case against Assad no ‘slam dunk’
http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-…
Russia sends warships to Mediterranean
- hans_glib0
leave it to the locals. or the israelis - they're good at this sort of thing. just firing off a few cruise missiles to show we're angry will do nothing more than kill a few innocent bystanders. as if assad will give a shit anyway... any chemical weapons stores will be underground and out of harm's way by now.
- BUT WE NEED TO SHOW WE'RE RELEVANT?detritus
- and relevance is measured by "collateral damage" these days i supposehans_glib
- http://interesting-f…hans_glib
- uuuuuu0
VICE: How did you gain access to the DNS of the companies you targeted? And why did you go after Twitter—aren't there many people on Twitter against potential US intervention?
Th3Pr0: We hit Melbourne IT and gained access to all the company domains, however we attacked Twitter after they closed our account 15 time and we did warned them.Last time we spoke, you said the Syrian Electronic Army had no contact with the Syrian government. Is that still the case?
We contacted the Syrian government lately to deliver the databases of Viber.com, Tango.me, and TrueCaller.com.And why would these websites be important to the Syrian government?
Huge numbers of terrorists use Viber and Tango for contacting (communication).Tell us more about the recent website attacks. They are much more advanced than your previous ones.
We have many types of attacks and we use a certain type depending on the target and how secure it is.Who do you feel is responsible for the chemical attacks?
Of course the terrorist groups like AlNusra and the FSA, as commanded by the USA to be the means and justification to strike Syria militarily.
- Raybandana0
- interestingdbloc
- interesting until the physical resistance part...with the dramatic war map scene...monkeyshine
- dbloc0
British lawmakers vote against taking military action against Syria
- BusterBoy0
The moment any talk of military intervention is discussed in the United States, it seems to become a self fulfilling prophecy. It seems to have moved past the point of "if" and is now just a question of when.