RIP Hugo Chavez
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- eoin0
Dazzlingly illuminating ... before you shape and share your opinion on Chavez, you must watch this.
- maquito0
I have a good friend from Venezuela.
I asked him once why did chavez win so much elections for 20 years in a row... something like "tell me the real thing"...His answer was "Because his supporters are those who don't know how to read, how to write, and are completely useless for the nation. The rest of 'us', had to leave Venezuela cause he was practically stealing our income to give it away to that supporters".
Pretty cool way to generate that indicators huh...
- fadein110
rich don't like losing shit
- Llyod0
I want to assfuck his corpse.
- sine0
it's not just about the "rich losing out".
his case (and Venezuela's) is an interesting one...
on the one hand he uplifted the lives of many (short-term), but created long-term problems for industry and business/economy.- the world (generalized) aren't interested in that model as far as investment goes.sine
- Llyod0
he was a fucking neo commie pos
- pr20
Chavez was a complex figure. A few months ago i worked with a soundman who just emigrated from Venezuela - he said you KNOW that every year you will get robbed at least once (sometimes including being kidnapped). Chavez was for equality but if you ever lived in socialism (i have) you know that the dream never matches the reality. People deep down are scumbags who will take advantage of the system or each other to be just a bit better off. The really poor robbing the above-poor middle class is just an example of that. In that sense Chavez presented a very complex dilemma - to keep on fighting for what life should be (equality etc) or what it really is (as capitalism is trying to convince us): filled with one scumbag stubbing another scumbag in the back. That persistence to create a dream of a kind rather than settle on practicality of life is something to be admired in him.
- yes. great post. as idealogical as it is, it's just not sustainable.sine
- neither is capitalism as it turns us into animalspr2
- It wasn't a good idea even on paper, communism equalizes down and strips your dignity and - everyone loses.shaft
- I lived behind the Iron Curtain longer than pr2 (I'm older), I'd never want to go back there.shaft
- I tried both, would choose capitalism again. It's not easy but gives you opportunity. In Cuba you have none.shaft
- both of my parents lived under communism most of their life (including small amount of prosecution) and now having lived in US past 10 years the long for good old day...pr2
- ... lived in US past 10 years the long for good old day...pr2
- utopian0
I will personally miss gawking at his nappy ass hair and odd-shaped jug head.
RIP Hugo
- ernexbcn0
NYT op-ed piece "In the End, an Awful Manager"
- ernexbcn0
Just because you call Bush the devil doesn't make you the saviour of the planet. Chávez was a buffoon, he might had good intentions but he surrounded himself with idolaters or complete morons/liars that only wanted to get rich at his expense.
Everyone in the top gov. when he won were poor or lower to middle class. They are millionaires now, travelling to europe, some of them even to the US (the evil empire!). His own daughters have iPhones and post on instagram pictures of their wealth and their travels on private jets.
It's sad times for venezuelans, to me because we wasted 14 years that could have made us a better country, instead we are a vehicle without brakes and no driver.
- ernexbcn0
Venezuela with the biggest oil boom in its history (100 dollars a barrel) has the highest inflation of America.
When Chávez won in 1998 there were 4 thousand violent deaths in Venezuela, last year 21 thousand.
That's one bullshit revolution.
- did he kill them all by himself?GeorgesII
- no you idiot, but it shows the incapacity of his government, the right to life is in our constitutionernexbcn
- I'd love to see you grow up in a city that has 70 to 100 people dead every fucking weekendernexbcn
- by thugsernexbcn
- I don't think we go that high, but were close, this is one competition I rather loseGeorgesII
- Ernexbro, I understand you 100% as an expat myself, I know full well to go back home and see the decadence evolving, sad shitGeorgesII
- ernexbcn0
Look at the inflation rate, we are the fucking bottom of the list as the worst country in the world:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis…
Chávez has spent 100 fucking hundred BILLION dollars in the past decade and yet you go to Venezuela and we still have the same infrastructure that was built by the governments before him. It saddens me to see every country in south america progressing and yet us with so many natural resources are becoming a country with an economy of an african country.
- lowimpakt0
@hotroddy - i'm not trying to defend chavez but my point is that all politics is divisive and i see equivalents in other governments e.g. many european countries have nationalised private companies such as banks, Italy had a prime minister that owned much of the national media, the UK has a public media organisation and most democracies have political prisoners of one form or another.
most countries are run by incompetent careerists.
- ernexbcn0
"Hugo Chavez leaves Venezuela in economic muddle"
- ernexbcn0
@lowimpakt I live in Spain that's currently in a big fucking crisis and the government involved in corruption scandals. But I can walk home from any point in the city to my flat either drunk or sober without being scared to death of not making it home alive because some fucking cunt wants to mug my shoes or my car.
You can't compare european countries with Venezuela, you have no idea what it is to live in a city like Caracas. I saw Caracas degrade for 24 years and saw it very recently in a much worse shape than what it was in 2003 when I left. I'd take any european country with all the services in transportation, health and quality of living vs Venezuela at any time.