RIP Hugo Chavez
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- ukit20
Chavez's legacy gains religious glow in Venezuela
- ernexbcn0
@lowimpakt I live in Spain that's currently in a big fucking crisis and the government involved in corruption scandals. But I can walk home from any point in the city to my flat either drunk or sober without being scared to death of not making it home alive because some fucking cunt wants to mug my shoes or my car.
You can't compare european countries with Venezuela, you have no idea what it is to live in a city like Caracas. I saw Caracas degrade for 24 years and saw it very recently in a much worse shape than what it was in 2003 when I left. I'd take any european country with all the services in transportation, health and quality of living vs Venezuela at any time.
- ernexbcn0
"Hugo Chavez leaves Venezuela in economic muddle"
- lowimpakt0
@hotroddy - i'm not trying to defend chavez but my point is that all politics is divisive and i see equivalents in other governments e.g. many european countries have nationalised private companies such as banks, Italy had a prime minister that owned much of the national media, the UK has a public media organisation and most democracies have political prisoners of one form or another.
most countries are run by incompetent careerists.
- ernexbcn0
Look at the inflation rate, we are the fucking bottom of the list as the worst country in the world:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis…
Chávez has spent 100 fucking hundred BILLION dollars in the past decade and yet you go to Venezuela and we still have the same infrastructure that was built by the governments before him. It saddens me to see every country in south america progressing and yet us with so many natural resources are becoming a country with an economy of an african country.
- ernexbcn0
Just because you call Bush the devil doesn't make you the saviour of the planet. Chávez was a buffoon, he might had good intentions but he surrounded himself with idolaters or complete morons/liars that only wanted to get rich at his expense.
Everyone in the top gov. when he won were poor or lower to middle class. They are millionaires now, travelling to europe, some of them even to the US (the evil empire!). His own daughters have iPhones and post on instagram pictures of their wealth and their travels on private jets.
It's sad times for venezuelans, to me because we wasted 14 years that could have made us a better country, instead we are a vehicle without brakes and no driver.
- ernexbcn0
NYT op-ed piece "In the End, an Awful Manager"
- hotroddy0
@lowimpact - I understand it's hard to put into context but I don't know politicians (who aren't dictators) whom have nationalized private companies, expropriated private property, shut radio stations and tv stations critical to him, and imprisoned politicians who have been vocal against him.
All the meanwhile have whipped out the middle class, ruined the venezuelan economy, and allowed Caracas to be the most insecure, violent, and expensive city to live in the world.
- lowimpakt0
@hotroddy - not to belittle that article but those could be accusations laid against almost any politician around the world.
a politician that is broadly accepted as non-hypocritical, honest 100% of the time is VERY rare.
also, I've heard lots of people come out is support of chavez but not question his support for Gaddafi or Assad.
what's up with that?
- hotroddy0
I'm an exiled Venezuelan. And this is why Hugo Chavez will not be missed:
- oey0
i need more info graphics!
- ZOOP0
Meanwhile in Cuba...
"This operation was not a success, the report said, adding that the ongoing infection disrupted scar formation between the colon and the rectum, and his abdomen filled with feces, causing another case of peritonitis."
"During a second operation, doctors clean and drained the affected area and created an artificial anus, the report said."
That was '07 Castro is one tough old goat!
Oh, and punches for Chavez, rapid-fire body blows like a heavy bag, in the morgue. He won't care and it won't show at the funeral. It's probably already happened. ツ
- CALLES0
Sean Penn Mourns Death Of Hugo Chavez: 'I Lost A Friend'
- lowimpakt0
GNI (atlas method) is interesting
- lowimpakt0
ernexbcn - I'm trying to be objective on this but on what measure are you saying " the worst economic situation it has ever been"
I'm looking through some time-series data on Venezuela GDP, GNI etc http://databank.worldbank.org/da…
There is a broad decline and moderate growth between 1976 and 1986, steep declines in 1991, 1997.
The two worst years since the 1960's for growth were 1989 (-10.7%) and 2002 (-10.5%). 2004 saw the most growth at anytime since 1960 - again followed by a flow decline but with growth returning between 2009 - 2011.
Fuel exports started to decline in 1983 and growing again in 1998 (although dropped off the chart in 2010). Ore and metal exports have been steady since 1960 but shot higher than ever in 2010
Since 1994 the highest year of interest rate were 1993 and 1998
external debt stocks increased massively between 1970 and 1989 but have been in decline since
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this is all fascinating. i'm hooked on boring data
- ernexbcn0
President should be the president of the congress but they like always interpret the constitution as they see fit, so the guy in charge now is Maduro the former VP.
Constitution is pretty clear on that, and elections need to be held within 30 days from his death.