USDA v. Lance Armstrong
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- capn_ron0
so, do you think it would ever be possible for these guys to ride the tour without using anything to recover each day? I mean, i know they are super strong, but they need something to make it so they can turn around and do another mind blowing ride day after day.
- Ask the early 20th century competitors. There's your answer.waterhouse
- (Yes.)waterhouse
- I just asked them and I got no answer.capn_ron
- they were all high on opium and coke probablylambsy
- either way, high or not i know it must hurt the body so bad to put it through that much punishment.capn_ron
- oey0
So, do they have proof(s) or not?
- necromation0
BUSTED
- instrmntl0
They all take drugs, that the trainers say are legal etc. But the drugs are instead just ahead of the curve. For him to complain is idiotic. You need to stand up for your image of course, but he knew what he was doing.
- ukit20
The United States Anti-Doping Agency said Wednesday that Lance Armstrong was at the center of the most sophisticated and professional doping program in recent sports history and that it would soon release details of its findings.
- utopian0
Lance is dope!
- dMullins0
Lance is my cycling hero.
- Presta0
MrA, How do you know he wasn't clean? Where's your evidence? A bunch of old bitter riders (proven liars) that got caught cheating and are willing to take down another rider to make themselves feel better?
I get more satisfaction in giving someone the benefit of the doubt, rather than from tearing someone down based on some wishy washy claims and lack of hard evidence.
- MrAbominable0
^ that's certainly what they tell you.
you also don't just dope a "little". you have to train on the meds in order to get the benefit of it. so it's non-stop hip hop. Look, Lance is king of the pimps. He was better than the other dopers and an incredible cyclist. He just wasn't clean, except in a sort of Bill Clinton way.
- Presta0
^ They don't mega-dope. If they take anything, it's a small amount, in hopes to gain a slight edge while still leaving open the possibility of passing the dope test. Sometimes this edge isn't enough. Lance is physiologically built for this sport, genetically more so than most pros. 33% larger heart & 33% larger lungs, amazing lactic acid threshold and VO2 max. Many pro cyclists are like this, but Lance always had some of the best testing results in the lab.
His VO2 max is 85 milliliters of oxygen per kilogram of body weight per minute. An average untrained person has a VO2 max of 45 and with training can get it to 60. Lance would be 60 if he was a couch potato and never trained. For the average person, their ceiling is Lance's basement.
- akrok0
it's so hard to believe that someone who's "not doping" will win over all others who's actually on shit.
- fooler0
donations to the Live Strong Foundation were up 25% today.
- SrSamaurai0
i'd like to remind everyone that he won 7 titles in a row. let the guy take enhancers it really enhanced the sport of cycling.
- _niko0
hard to believe they tested him 100's of times and not got a positive result.
Then again, it's claimed that they paid doctors to hide the positive tests.
- Doctors? You mean lab technicians. Anyway, they do not know who's test belong to which riders. At that stage, they are onlyPresta
- (the samples) are only identifiable by a number.Presta
- The number and positive samples are given to the race organizers. And then organizers connect the number to the rider's name.Presta
- name of the rider.Presta
- The claim is whether Lance paid the organizers (Tour officials or UCI) to hide positive result(s).Presta
- My belief is that the French organizers would have loved to catch Lance as a cheat. But they never did.Presta
- exador10
looks like a witch hunt to me.
- severian0
This day, millions clad in spandex weep.