Shooting of the Day
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- iCanHazQBN2
Oh I'm sure he was just protecting his property, or defending his freedoms, or standing up to a tyrannical government, or, or, or...
- don't you people ever get tired of acting like scumbags. it's as if you people are glad when these tragedies happen the way you blurt out sarcastic drivel everygilgamush
- god damned time. have some respect for the dead you smarmy piece of shitgilgamush
- Have respect for the dead? I'd rather not see innocent people die. That's where my position is. If you TRULY cared, you wouldn't be so pro-gun.iCanHazQBN
- Your mentality is: People get shot, then you pretend to be sad, but then you STILL wave your guns around with pride. That's moronic, to the extreme.iCanHazQBN
- How fucking dare you think that I'm "glad" this happened. I don't post hundreds of messages being anti-gun because I want people to get shot...iCanHazQBN
- ...that's stupid.iCanHazQBN
- It's really fucked up. You tryany excuse to justify owning guns, then when innocent people die you accuse the other side of being "glad" it happened.iCanHazQBN
- I suggest you go see a psychiatrist or admit yourself into a mental institution.iCanHazQBN
- this is a sad occurrence of the failure of our culture and medical health professionals but in stead of addressing that you make a smarmy dig at inanimate objecgilgamush
- objects because it suits your political agenda, you sir, are despicablegilgamush
- Inanimate objects? I'd say they're a little more than a spoon.iCanHazQBN
- The point is, are we going to catch EVERY person with a mental issue? Are we going to stop EVERY person who decides to kill in the heat of the moment??? No.iCanHazQBN
- gilgamush, it's a moral discussion that will never end, between two oxymoronic positions, totally arguable, BOTH; carrying intense feelings and standpoints thatmaquito
- And if you want to improve the healthcare system, that requires the raising taxes, which is out of the question for most gun-nuts.iCanHazQBN
- ..can easily be taken off-context and/or being put into personal judgement.maquito
- "oxymoronic", I forgot the quotation marks. I totally invented that word.maquito
- The idea that we can monitor every person's behavior, feelings, and actions is stupid. We can't. We can't know that some dude is plotting to shoot hisiCanHazQBN
- wife next Monday. But guns are physical tangible object that can be removed from the equation.iCanHazQBN
- Imagine some psycho is pointing a gun at you. Are you going to try to remove the gun from the equation, or attempt to perform a therapy session on him?iCanHazQBN
- I kind of agree with you, iCanHaz, on this one. But what about me, possessing a gun, and only using it for sport? Am I responsible?maquito
- Behavior and psychosis are issues that have been around since the beginning of humanity. Some people are just wired wrong...iCanHazQBN
- Besides, if you "take the guns from the equation", I'll lose my hobby. Why? I don't shoot people, I don't even shoot living things. Nor CARRY the gun.maquito
- You can't just simply "fix" some people. But we can remove this tangible object to prevent these sick people from mass-killing.iCanHazQBN
- That'd be like carrying a batt with you to the mall because you enjoy baseball..maquito
- Maquito, with regard to your sport. Imagine that your gun performed exactly what you wanted.. Point, Shoot, Hit a target.. but it wasn't deadly...iCanHazQBN
- Would you still be interested in the sport? Or is the idea that it's deadly a factor in your interest in the sport?iCanHazQBN
- You absolutely can smash someone's brains out with a batt. Ban batts? No, much better: let's ban baseball.maquito
- I'm saying what if it was a "simulated" bullet. Or a type of laser-shot. Or a rubber bullet. Something that accurately executed everything a gun does..iCanHazQBN
- Regarding the sport: airsoft guns (scarab pointed out a good example in my "guns" thread"). That's be a good solution.maquito
- ...but it wasn't deadly. I have a feeling gun people still wouldn't go for this idea, simply for the fact that the macho/deadly aspect of the gun doesn't exist.iCanHazQBN
- But it's not considered an olympic, neither any other kind of sport... shooting targets with a bearing ball...maquito
- With regard to bats being dangerous.. If this guy brought a bat to school, the headline might read "one person seriously injured" instead of "15 people dead".iCanHazQBN
- You can hurt people with many things. The point is guns are much more effective in taking out a lot of people. And running from one does nothing.iCanHazQBN
- I understand what you are saying, and sadly the macho-gun-powdered thing escalated very much... But it's NOT my thing. I don't instagram my guns..maquito
- I'm not sure what you mean by "not considered an olympic sport". You mean my idea of a simulated bullet?iCanHazQBN
- Your point is clear. And it's very sad to watch in the news how the society came to a breaking point in which this whole thing truly makes me rethink a lot.maquito
- Oh you mean Airsoft not considered an Olympic sport. If that's what you meant... so what? Are you planning to go to the Olympics?iCanHazQBN
- No, I meant shooting the airsoft replicas. It's not the same difficulty, nor the required skills.maquito
- lol, no. I don't... I got your point, and I truly agree in many levels.maquito
- in the future, don't be sarcastic and smarmy when trying to politicize tragedies. it's a scumbag move. guns aren't going anywhere anytime soon so have all the tgilgamush
- tantrums in poor taste you want, you are wasting your breath and looking callous and naive in the meantimegilgamush
- brandelec0
- this is gonna make things interesting for the tipper gores of the worldcolin_s
- full thread: https://archive.moe/…dorf
- colin_s-4
portland was going to be a party today because we can buy weed now , and this bullshit happens.
- ernexbcn2
In before "having guns can prevent these tragedies" excuses from gun carriers.
- it's not an excuse, it's a painfully obvious fact. the only thing that can stop a badguy with a gun is a goodguy with a gun. oh but that's right, you fucking sigilgamush
- sompletons would rather sit around and shout about how nobody should have guns. well get over it, we do. move on, that isn't a practical train of though. eithergilgamush
- pose a suggestion for a real solution or shut the ever loving fuck up with your demonization of inanimate objectsgilgamush
- *simpletonsgilgamush
- I don't need a good dumb ass guy with a gun. http://deadstate.org…monkeyshine
- I hope you never dogilgamush
- gilga's logic is baffling.inteliboy
- it's typicalmoldero
- his inanimate object argument is just way to easy to rip to shredsmoldero
- OK. Rip it to shreds then. When somebody comes unhinged and starts murdering people with fire arms the only thing stopping him is running out of bullets or getgilgamush
- Getting shot himself. You cannot contest thatgilgamush
- And before you say the same stupid shit about 'oh well if nobody had guns to begin with', that isn't the case so get your head out of the clouds and deal with rgilgamush
- Realitygilgamush
- I got better shit to do, sorry bud, but keep on with your rants so your precious gun won't get taken away while people loose family membersmoldero
- I'm pretty sure I have more guns and experience with them then you do and even I know this shit needs to stop.moldero
- adiosmoldero
- Your rediculous assumptions aside, yes, this shit does need to stop. Banning guns isn't going to happen though so unless you have a real good idea I see no poingilgamush
- Point in the guns are bad diatribe. Adios pal, thanks for your your less than illuminating contributiongilgamush
- intellectual savantutopian
- Says the kid with zero empathy who cracks jokes on every post in this thread. If anyone is autsmal it's you utopiangilgamush
- Do us all favor...go post on Reddit or troll Craigslistutopian
- Sure thing, first you do me a favor and get your sick digs in on the expence of somebody other than murder victimsgilgamush
- Well what say you, do we have a deal. I will stay out of this thread if you and others can contain your glee over these tragediesgilgamush
- Reading these notes once again make me grateful I live somewhere where these bizarre and frankly insane discussions don't need to exist.Continuity
- Nobody is happy about this gilgamush. Trust me on that.monospaced
- I'm happy. Keep posting gilgamush. Don't let the fuckers get you down.isleptwithsirenstonight
- And stop speaking for everybody else mono.isleptwithsirenstonight
- Why don't good guys with guns ever seem to stop the bad guys with guns? One news story?ben_
- It always end one of two ways, nut runs out of ammo and gets captured or nut gets shotgilgamush
- Gun gets the last word in both cases. Check mate anti-gunners.isleptwithsirenstonight
- pro-gun, anti-gun, it makes no difference, guns are here to stay, how as a society are we going to deal with this increasing trend in young people losing itgilgamush
- moldero2
- Not one single fuck was given.utopian
- Poor fuckin guy, you can tell he just wants to unload. I love the part about routine. dead on.sofakingback
- well doneernexbcn
- yes, spot on, very sane speechfeel
- _niko0
news reporting that gunman was targeting Christians, asking them if they were christian and then shooting them.
Thank god, for a minute there i thought this was going to be another gun rights debate.
but as it turns out, It's what the republican have been saying all along, guns don't kill people, Muslims kill people...or possibly athiests.
- dorf0
the real question, is why people feel the need to go on shooting sprees? where are the mental health options for some of these individuals? how does the american culture contribute to this? etc.
so far the only shortsighted solution is to impose stricter gun controls but if someone really wants to, they'll find ways to hurt people.
- ^^^^^^^utopian
- Thank god, a voice of reason amongst the lemmingsgilgamush
- ^^^^^^^utopian
- Agreed, its not a problem that gets solved with one solution.sofakingback
- I think the american gun culture is a big issue. movies, games, toys, everything is guns. Everything is kill somethingsofakingback
- True...guns an American cultural phenomenon.utopian
- More Americans killed by guns since 1968 than in all U.S. wars.utopian
- It's what this country has always been about and these occurrences used to be much less common, stop blaming the guns, it's utter nonsensegilgamush
- You are right...guns don't kill people!utopian
- The bottom line is that Americans love their violence, it is in their DNA.utopian
- @utopian, only one quarter of those gun deaths were homicides so not really the most honest statgilgamush
- At least in it's implication. Sneaky wording. Obviously it doesn't make homicide in any proportion culturally acceptablegilgamush
- America bash all you want, I don't care. Have a little bit of human decency though and don't mock human suffering and tragedy, that's just scummy behaviorgilgamush
- Things change. 200 years ago, it was a good idea. Now, its just a shit show. I love guns, they're awesome. but not enough to see so many people die like that.sofakingback
- Well love guns or not, they are part of the fabric of society and they trully aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Time to look for real solutionsgilgamush
- I won't even pretend to have a solution or know whats right or wrong. I know these shootings aren't normal. I don't think anyone wants this to happen.sofakingback
- Not really an honest stat?
www.tinyurl.com/qyab…...
www.tinyurl.com/a2bk…...
Get your head out of the sand!utopian - http://www.politifac…utopian
- http://www.politifac…utopian
- Of course not, but peoples strange sadistic side has a way of coming out in this thread and it sickens me. Enough is enoughgilgamush
- And utopian, for fucks sake read the damned articles you post, is says right in it that only one quarter of the gun deaths were homicides. Which is obviously whgilgamush
- What the controversy is aboutgilgamush
- They mentioned one year 2011, read the article! Here is another one. http://www.politifac…utopian
- So no, far fewer people have been murdered since 68 than all the deaths in all the wars. A sensationalized, trickily worded, fluff statgilgamush
- Both articles state..."killed by guns!" Murder, accident, suicide, etc... Killed by guns!utopian
- Spoken like a proud NRA card holder!utopian
- Only one of the four links you have posted has worked, luckily is was the relevant one. Go back and actually read it and get back to me tommorow, I'm done for tgilgamush
- The nightgilgamush
- Stop beeing a retard. there are nut jobs everywhere, but they don't have access to guns like they have in the US. A retard without a gun is not that harmful..ESKEMA
- As always, you dullards miss the point. There are a lot of guns in the US, there always have been. Thats not going to changegilgamush
- I think it could change. I believe the number of guns has been increasing too.monospaced
- utopian2
One in three people in the U.S. know someone who has been shot.
On average, 31 Americans are murdered with guns every day and 151 are treated for a gun assault in an emergency room.
Every day on average, 55 people kill themselves with a firearm, and 46 people are shot or killed in an accident with a gun.
The U.S. firearm homicide rate is 20 times higher than the combined rates of 22 countries that are our peers in wealth and population.
A gun in the home is 22 times more likely to be used to kill or injure in a domestic homicide, suicide, or unintentional shooting than to be used
in self-defense.Gun Violence Takes a Massive Toll on American Children
More than one in five U.S. teenagers (ages 14 to 17) report having witnessed a shooting.
An average of seven children and teens under the age of 20 are killed by guns every day.
American children die by guns 11 times as often as children in other high-income countries.
Youth (ages 0 to 19) in the most rural U.S. counties are as likely to die from a gunshot as those living in the most urban counties. Rural children die of more gun suicides and unintentional shooting deaths. Urban children die more often of gun homicides.
Firearm homicide is the second-leading cause of death (after motor vehicle crashes) for young people ages 1-19 in the U.S.
In 2007, more pre-school-aged children (85) were killed by guns than police officers were killed in the line of duty.
Gun Violence is a Drain on U.S. Taxpayers
Medical treatment, criminal justice proceedings, new security precautions, and reductions in quality of life are estimated to cost U.S. citizens $100 billion annually.
The lifetime medical cost for all gun violence victims in the United States is estimated at $2.3 billion, with almost half the costs borne by taxpayers.
Americans Support Universal Background Checks
Nine out of 10 Americans agree that we should have universal background checks, including three out of four NRA members.
Since the Brady Law was initially passed, about 2 million attempts to purchase firearms have been blocked due to a background check.
About half of these blocked attempts were by felons.Unfortunately, our current background check system only applies to about 60% of gun sales, leaving 40% (online sales, purchases at gun shows, etc.) without a background check
- utopian2
Guns Kill An Average Of 36 People Every Day, And The Nation Doesn't Even Blink
America has a problem with gun violence
- yes huffpost, yes utopian. we are all aware there is a problem. They are making money pushing sensationalized fluff, but what are you getting out of this utopiagilgamush
- ^ he's just stating the facts... The US has a major problem that other countries don't have and there has to be a connection to the ridiculous access to gunsfadein11
- BAN GUNS you fucktards!HAYZ1LLLA
- Guns don't kill people, internal bleeding does.isleptwithsirenstonight
- The problem is thinking that removing the gun will remove the root of the problem.imbecile
- LOLisleptwithsirenstonight
- i'm sure it's more than that.bklyndroobeki
- It is far more than that, and it just isn't going to happen, guns aren't going anywhere so its pointless to keep calling for them to be bannedgilgamush
- Most Americans' besides the NRA and the Right Wing Nuts want common sense gun laws and comprehensive background checks...period!utopian
- please make a new post detailing what common sense gun laws and comprehensive background checks consist of. it would be an infinitely more pertinent post then agilgamush
- all the sensational pointless stats you postgilgamush
- monospaced1
Can anyone tell me how the Orgeon shooter was part of a "a well regulated militia?"
Maybe the NRA should make another video about guns so we can feel safe again.
- I feel safer sleeping with my 5 guns then 5 police officers, don't you too?GeorgesIV
- It might be safer but the 5 police officers would be funner.isleptwithsirenstonight
- Who said he was? I fail to see your point here.404NotFound
- Clearlymonospaced
- the second ammendment contains the phrase "well regulated" .... few seem to know thisvaxorcist
- People don't care, they just want their gun fetish. There's no logic there, just empty verbiage about "freedom", "rights" and "protection"formed
- Well, he wasn't part of the national guard so this sarcastic bs is pointlessgilgamush
- No, he wasn't. That is a point, like it or not. I'm clearly not trying to fight with you, you can accept this as a healthy discussion.monospaced
- GeorgesIV2
meh,
this is the price you have to pay for freedom!!!
check all the countries without guns and correlate it to the amount of freedom they have,
this is straight science,move to urop if you don't like it,
dun tread'un me!!!
trump2k16
- I will give my life for Freedom!
God bless our heroes.isleptwithsirenstonight - I swear to the almighty G, if Trump ever get elected, I'm moving to the states!!GeorgesIV
- Mi casa es su casaisleptwithsirenstonight
- I will give my life for Freedom!
- ernexbcn13
gilgamush we don't glee over tragedies so don't go around asking us to top criticising or calling us simpletons. Also, you might as well stop justifying the unjustifiable and jump like a spider like we are taking your beautiful guns away.
I'm just glad I live in a country where I don't need to posses a gun to feel safe.
- I feel entitled to speak about the US gun problem because I have a sister there plus 2 nephews born thereernexbcn
- I too live in a country where I don't need to posses a gun to feel safe... The United States.imbecile
- Oh for fucks sake. You people are a broken record. My rights are not in danger because a hand full of artists think guns are inherently bad. Guns aren't going agilgamush
- Anywhere and I certainly don't feel threatened by how you folks feel so stop puffing up your chest.gilgamush
- And if somebody posts a mass murder and you come on and comment something like " how's that freedom tasting America" then yes you are enjoying it, and you are agilgamush
- Sick puppygilgamush
- yeah i read those comments its pretty tasteless.yurimon
- HAYZ1LLLA0
Appears the guys overriding issue was with women.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/…- feminist? threadisleptwithsirenstonight
- That's supposed to be the shooter.HAYZ1LLLA
- i_monk2
Shooting in Oregon: So far in 2015, we’ve had 274 days and 294 mass shootings
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ne…
- #1 baby!!!!isleptwithsirenstonight
- WE ARE THE WEENERS!moldero
- *bares toothless grid
aa-me-rii-caaadrgs - Definitely an interesting time to be a parent in the US. :/R_Kercz
- nb0
"My response here at this podium ends up being routine."
- Obama, addressing the nation immediately after the shooting.Let that statement sink in for a while. This is a written speech, he's saying exactly what he means to say. Heavy shit.
Some people (i.e. the gun lobby) are accusing him of politicizing tragedy? Once again, they're twisting reality to fit their own political agenda. A politician who only looks to benefit from this tragedy would instead say, "Now is not the time for politics, but rather we should hope and pray for the families of the victims." They would leave policy out of it, and that would be politicizing. That's what the gun-rights lobby is doing.
Instead, President Obama is saying the politically incorrect thing: While the families are still in shock, he's offering up a solution that can only be politically damaging to him. Because being P.C. hasn't worked, and he's just trying to reason with the people and save some lives.
- ridiculous GOP calls this politicizing tragedy. problem=too much access to guns for crazies. solution=less access to guns for crazies. totes appropssarahfailin
- That's not a bad idea, too bad guns are everywhere and anyone can easily get one. Seems to e the solution lies somewhere closer to home, with parents doing theigilgamush
- Their job raising their kids right. The government isn't a substitute for the lack of parenting, as badly as they would like to step in and fill that voidgilgamush
