Trayvon Martin
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- mg330
Is anyone else dying to hear that YouTube pronunciation thing pronounce Trayvon Martin? Would it be:
Traayy-Vahhn MehruhTaaaannn
- 20020
I was pulled over once because I had a white car. There was a robbery and they were looking for a white car. Guns drawn etc, me on the ground, hand cuffed, bent over a cop car.
I over hear the radio, "Its not white car but a red car. Are you guys idiots?"
The cop at least apologized to me. Shook hands and drove off.
- jesus christ ... bet your heart was pumpingRamanisky2
- Yeah it was a rush.2002
- how old were you?Ramanisky2
- I was 252002
- locustsloth0
"Zimmerman was appointed by the town"
Nope. Self-appointed captain"It just so happens Trayvon was recently found with a tool to break into locked doors, among committing many other crimes"
Irrelevant. Zimmerman didn't know that. Know why? Because NO ONE knew who Trayvon even WAS. He was listed as a John Doe until the day after he was shotAt the point at which Zimmerman gets out of his car to pursue Trayvon, he is a vigilante, acting outside the guidelines of the law and the neighborhood watch. He, in this action, instigates the incident. He is at the very least partially culpable for the death and should be charged as such.
Additionally, Florida has no open carry laws, only concealed and travel carry. So the claim that Trayvon was going for the gun and that the shot was a result of the struggle means that Zimmerman had it out and was already prepared to use it.
Even stripping all racial context from this incident, Zimmerman should not walk off scott free. Though i would support the argument that he isn't scott-free as this will likely require him to abandon his life as he knows it, even if he's innocent. However i believe there should be legal repercussions as well.- < thisRamanisky2
- reports say: gun was in his waistband. struggle on ground revealed it when his shirt lifted up.lambsy
- Ramanisky20
When I was in 9th grade ... one night i went out to my local video store. On the way there as I'm crossing a road, I notice this car where the driver made this weird u-turn and was eyeballing me the entire time .. It was a cold drizzly night out so I had my black jacket and a skullcap on (suspicious looking for sure)
I get to the store and I rent a couple of movies and bought a couple of movie posters. On my way back. I cross that same road and now I'm in a shopping plaza parking lot where its night now and almost all the stores are closed. I'm walking when the same car comes whipping up from behind me like an action movie the guy hits his brakes and comes to a squealing stop. I swear, I think I saw smoke coming from the tires. The guy gets out about 5"6 180 pounds, older looking maybe in his mid-40's with a stache wearing a suit and tie.. screaming ":You!!! COME HERE!!! NOW!!!"
I say, "what? I didn't.. why?" ... He says "Police" and flashes something that looks like a badge "I said, COME HERE!!!"
to which I replied "I didn't do anything" and bolted.. fuuuuuuuuckI hear "stop Police...STOP... POLICE!!!"
I ran towards the shops .. one shop was still open.. it was a haircut place and so I enter it like a maniac all out of breath and scared as fuck and everybody turns their head to look at me and within seconds of entering the place I get shoved into the wall and now there's 3 of them including a female officer.
same dude starts with "What the fuck are you running from the police for? we could've shot you!!!" "whats in the bag?" .....
"Just some rented movies"...
the female officer grabs the bag and searches... "just movies & posters sir"..apparently there were several homes that were robbed nearby and these assholes thought I looked like the guy in their shitty little sketch.
so instead of saying sorry and our bad ... this guy continued with you never run from the cops .. I told him "look, you're dressed like a civilian driving an unmarked car.. what was I supposed to do?"
"I showed you my badge" ........ riiiiiiiiiight
could they have shot at me ??? ... "opps we shot the wrong guy.. dang"if so, fuck!! that was close.
- DrBombay0
The cops told him not to pursue Martin, does that matter to you at all?
- CygnusZero40
It's not his fault he was followed. Did I say that? Nope. I said it MAY be his own fault he got killed and that's a fact. Allow me to explain for those that are slow.
Zimmerman was appointed by the town to look into suspicious characters. He sees a hooded person walking around in an upscale community at night looking at houses. It just so happens Trayvon was recently found with a tool to break into locked doors, among committing many other crimes so he was no angel. Zimmerman asks Trayvon what he's doing, and there's a confrontation.
What we cant possibly know is who attacked first, but from that 13 year old witness we know Zimmerman was on his back screaming for help while being punched in the nose and having his head slammed into the ground. Now at that point your life is actually being threatened and you have the legal right to use lethal force to protect yourself. Its either that or you just wait to die. Up to you but I would have shot him too.
Now what about that is difficult for you to understand, unless of course you're black and everyone that attacks blacks must be racist and have intent to kill?
- "It may be" and "that's a fact" are incongruent statements.DrBombay
- oh and your Mother is slow.DrBombay
- HE WAS NOT APPOINTED BY THE FUCKING TOWN, YOU MORON.ETM
- How many times must it be repeated for you? Community volunteer. NOTHING official.ETM
- See Cherub of Justice vid on pg1 for an example of self-appointedBonSeff
- self appointed vigilanteRamanisky2
- AND BNOT EVEN APPOINTED AS THE CAPTAIN. "Self Appointed". And the formal block watches said they WOULD NEVER have someone carrying a weapon.Josev
- WOULD NEVER have someone carrying a weapon.Josev
- Do you fucking read, Cygnus? Or are the facts too inconvenient?Josev
- CygnusZero40
Lol look at this fucking jackass. Doesn't even know all the facts, but hey, the victim was black, let's get behind him, even though the possibility is there that this was his own fault.
- yes, it's his fault. He was all like "Hey Mr, come follow me against 911's advice"locustsloth
- albums0
remember this guy?
- omg0
What would you do if an approaching stranger followed you home in a black truck, and a gun holstered on his side on a dark and rainy night? Your choices is to stand and get shot, or defend yourself against this attacker and hope you don't get shot.
Why all of a sudden is this race thing being blown out of proportion? A couple years ago, 2 black guys rape a 90 year old woman, and Al Sharpton and the Black Panthers were not there for the black communities in this great racial injustice. Why does this case hold so much interest for the news media, which is obviously fueling the interest in this story. Else no one would care.
Why aren't the kids ransacking the Walgreens for this story?
- Zimmerman killed under the guise of upholding the law and protecting himselflocustsloth
- and he did so because in his eyes black +hoodie +walking +night = criminallocustsloth
- these assholes just raped a defenseless woman. Would have done so regardless of race, i imaginelocustsloth
- just because there are 2 different races involved doesn't make it a racial issuelocustsloth
- @ lotuscloth - i believe Trayvon was acting firstly in self defense when approached by a man with a holstered gun.omg
- all reports indicate gun was concealed until the struggle. not visible until shirt was lifted on the ground.lambsy
- Ramanisky20
this supposed friend of Zimmerman's makes no sense .. but he has huge brass balls for going on The Lawrence O'Donnell's Show
- ya that was brutal to watch, was like a verbal gangbangBonSeff
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SRamanisky2 - sorry but the MSNBC cats come off as complete maniacs in that piece.futuremongolian
- yeah its called asking tough question that others are not askingRamanisky2
- if they need someone close to Zimmerman to define his racism. Ask mom who should know best.omg
- Race is such a stupid issue and irrelevant.omg
- leads people to believe he knows enough to call Zimmerman a law enforcement enthusiast, but not a racist.omg
- ... and what is up with Steve Urkel making an appearance?omg
- 20020
"One woman, 30, who was at a park with her children and refused to give her name, called the city’s Iraqi residents “territorial,” adding, “maybe because we are at war with them.” She said her own background was Mexican, though she had grown up in Southern California."
Great, minorities against other minorities.
- 20020
"California Muslim Mother Beaten To Death, Left With Note Saying ‘Go Back To Your Country, You Terrorist’"
- randommail0
yeah, it's about time time for another good ol' Union vs. Confederate civil war.
- severian0
Go team America.
- severian0
And not a peep is heard from this.
- monkeyshine0
@deathboy...there are always cases that get more attention. How is it JonBenet Ramsey's killing got non-stop national coverage when Tabatha Tudor, a poor kid from Nashville, barely made headlines after her disappearance?
If the police had arrested Zimmerman (or at least done a background check and/or taken him in for questioning) and played out the investigation the way many feel was appropriate, I don't think this shooting would be getting so much attention.
"Something is rotten in the state of Denmark".
- yea i guess its more jersey shore of a news storydeathboy
- lambsy0
and it begins.
Trayvon protesters ransack store
http://www.local10.com/news/Poli…- some serious abuses of the Queen's English going on it that video.futuremongolian
- I hate shit like this. Punish more innocent people. These are not protesters. Just opportunist pigs.ETM
- deathboy0
i really dont get this. sounds like a dumb shit killing. Both dudes overreacting or even a single guy depending your view. How is this more important than any regular news story of dumb shit with a fark tag in florida? Is it only important because its everywhere making people think its more important and need to talk about ( yes im in that demo after seeing so much and getting curious about how one senseless act of violence is more important than others... power of media highlighting shit). Seems as senseless an pointless as any smoking gun story... I kinda see the attraction with zimmerman getting off at first but clearly looks like evidence will screw him. But still dont see how it gains so much attention. I cant help but think its no more valuable than the local news reporting on some stabbing or shooting.Why does this seem important?
- _niko0
^ that story about the white couple being murdered and tortured is a million times worse than what happened to Trayvon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mur…
and no media coverage. Man america is fucked up.
good luck with everything.- apples and oranges. The issue with the Martin killing is the killer wasn't arrested.futuremongolian
- yes, the fact that this case got no attention means nothing and is just you're pathetic attempt at trying to take away the importance of the martin case.Josev
- from the importance of the Martin case.Josev
- no just commenting on the sad state of american media._niko
- true and weird that I never saw this case .. but do you really think if those animals were not arrested for this crime there would be no mention of this?Ramanisky2
- would be no mention of this story in the media? come on now.Ramanisky2