Swiffy: swf to html5
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- animatedgif0
^ Re: CSS Gradients, switch to a better text editor and you can script that to be spat out from a single command.
- and still not get simultaneous visual feedback - lame.CyBrainX
- who cares, it's the webanimatedgif
- dibec0
#failed
- Continuity0
The first example in the gallery looks like an SWF-to-animated-GIF conversion.
- ernexbcn0
This is Google's way of saying:
Happy Birthday AS3!
- ukit0
" IT took 15 years for JS to get JQuery.. it will take another 15 years for all these standards and frameworks and all the shit to even work on all browsers."
Typical hyperbolic statement from Boz on this subject. It didn't "take" 15 years for jQuery to be invented, like they were slaving away for 15 years trying to come up with it. No one was looking to invent jQuery, an independent developer just happened to come up with this new way of writing JS for web apps, at a time when browsers could begin to handle better JS performance.
But in some ways this does get to the heart of the issue. Do you want animation and interactivity on the web controlled by a single corporation, and limited to their development schedule, or do you want it to be driven by open standards, competition between browser makers and the efforts of independent developers the way JS and jQuery has been?
That's why complaining that HTML5 can't do x as well as Flash is such a short-sighted view. Ultimately it's about choosing one model of development over another. Companies like Google, Apple and Microsoft are well aware of cross browser issues but they will press ahead with HTML5 because they recognize it's a much more empowering path for them than being reliant on Adobe technology.
- +1 well said in the last paragraphanimatedgif
- Only Apple is the only one of those companies not pressing forward with Flash as well as HTML5.CyBrainX
- stewart0
conversion of the typography is fabulous
- jadrian_uk0
" IT took 15 years for JS to get JQuery"
It didnt took that time, everything was there from the start(inside the Js core), libraries were created and developped in a couple of years.- and took 15 years to emergefadein11
- what?jadrian_uk
- frameworks have only been about in recent years - simplesfadein11
- yes but it didnt took 15 years to build themjadrian_uk
- jadrian this is a totally acceptable way to say 'JS was around for 15 years before jQuery'kingsteven
- fyoucher10
""A lot of Flash hate comes from people who either never learned Flash and they felt left out, or they did learn it and then just stopped following the technology...""
Sooooooo true.
Or they say that it crashes their browser, that they use Click To Flash, etc etc.
Ok, let's hypothetically say Flash disappeared tomorrow. Do you really think designers won't be pushing the limits of what HTML5-CSS-JS can do? They'll be plenty of super slow running websites that are trying to do too much with the technology, crashing your browser. There's always going to be that site that runs like shit on the average computer but looks awesome on a super computer.
Do you think sites will stop displaying 3 ads on a webpage? Haa. No way. Do you think the people that created the site would create the ad that it hosts? Obviously not. Do you think the person who created the HTML5 ad is going to try and push the limit of the creative? Sure will be. Will you need Click-To-HTML5? Ever see an animated iAd? How'd your iPad run during that?In the end, how is that better than what we have now? How is that not pushing us 10 years back?
Anywho, this horse has been beaten so many times. A year from now once this hype is over, mobile hardware will become better. Flash will be leaps and bounds ahead of any other implemented rich media technology. HTML will still be used to create simplistic sites. Steve Jobs will pass. And iOS will run Flash simply because all new TV's run it natively and no one will care to download apps from a "phone", since that'll be considered old school. Time to get out of bed.
- Nathan_Adams0
Felt the need to write a paragraph for each of your monitors Boz?
Someone is feeling just a wee bit defensive.- argumentum ad hominemGeorgesII
- yeah, so?Nathan_Adams
- just pointing out your agurment mate,
keep on fucking that chickenGeorgesII - Don't knock the best testimony on the subject just because it was long. He hit the bullseye.CyBrainX
- dasmeteor0
Make me think about that.
http://labs.adobe.com/technologi…- the difference is that swiffy converts existing content. Think of real-time conversion for iPadzaq
- ukit0
You guys are missing the point...it's not about what does or doesn't crash the browser or which technology motion tweens more smoothly.
The reason all these big technology companies are getting on board with standards-based approach is because it gives them something they lacked with Flash, control. They want to be able to develop these technologies at their own pace and not be beholden to Adobe's release schedule.
If you want proof of how this works just look at the fact that only NOW is Adobe coming out with robust mobile version of their plugin. They dragged their feet for years but once HTML5 became a reality and Jobs started talking about Flash being dead did they actually get around to it. Only now that WebGL is emerging are we seeing a true 3D version of Flash, despite the fact that Papervision was introduced years ago.
Adobe having a monopoly on this stuff is in no one's interests but their own...and that's really what is driving all this. All the talk about browser compatibility issues (which will be resolved soon enough) is pretty superficial in comparison.
- yes they want an open environmentjadrian_uk
- ONLY now the mobile is even getting proper HTML support wtf are you talking about. Nobody cared about mobile before.. and HTML5/JS doesn't even work great now nor does it have true multi-touch support..Boz
- mobile before.. and HTML5/JS doesn't even work great now nor does it have true multi-touch support..Boz
- The point is using the best tool possible and you get MORE control out of Flash in most cases.CyBrainX
- dasmeteor0
So basically html5 can do what Flash 8 could do 5 years ago ?
- excuse my frenchdasmeteor
- Pretty sure Flash couldn't play on 90%+ devices 5 years ago, let alone TODAY.chalk
- this TODAy ? http://www.qbn.com/t…dasmeteor
- zingbogue
- yupmoldero
- and yes.. Flash 8 was on 90+% computers 5 years ago.. saying HTML5 is on 40% of browsers is A STRETCH! But let's give it to it.Boz
- Flash was great back in 2005, solving cross browser issues, but how long are they supposed to hold that candle?omg
- For as long as so-called 'modern browsers' aren't implementing HTML5/CSS3 uniformly across the board.Continuity
- And for as long as users hang on to old browser versions (IE6/7/8, FF3, etc)Continuity
- ernexbcn0
- A true craftsman http://www.venture51…ernexbcn
- 12 monitors. Respect.ernexbcn
- BOZ, running shit at QBN ; )
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- monNom0
^ it's his job as an "Adobe Evangelist" isn't it? or am I thinking of someone else?