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  • Peter0

    Yay steak!

    "Your body kills living beings by the thousands every day. If you didn't, you'd die. Bacteria, viruses, disease... are all 'living beings'. By the very nature of our existense we must kill other life forms to survive."

    True, but now we're on the very macrobiotic of levels. Seems like a bit of a schtickler argument to me: a valid point but a point not really related to us eating all these yummy carcasses. Let's get back to those. Or otherwise we might end up agreeing to something bizarre and uncivilized, like man must kill every other man in order to survive. We've the ability to choose to coexist, but not always the mind to.

    The answer, I believe, is as always in moderation. We're raising animals with brains so that they can feed animals which we will later feed upon. It's almost ridiculous where we are.
    While I could never give up fish, meat or poultry, but I'd sure invite more initiative to eating less of it.

    Alas when the McRib returns...

    • how the fuck did that "but" get in there?Peter
  • Harley_Quinn0

    I like eating two animals at once.... like bacon wrapped sirloin or bacon wrapped shrimp <3 heck wrap most anything in bacon and most people are down !!!!!

  • NickInfozure0

    Yeh I had Chicken wrapped with bacon and pork and apple stuffing last night. Sunday nights wouldn't be the same without a bit of MEAT!

  • Hench0

    ^ These last two retarded comments are testament to Lukus_W's point about eating meat... lol

    "Eating meat is tied closely to masculine ideals, and I reckon a lot of people romanticise the process of killing meat and consuming it - and choose their point of view purely for the purpose of projecting a macho image. It's understandable, but a bit naive maybe."

    • Nothing macho.. I like meat. My girlfriend chose and cooked it. Not macho... just human.NickInfozure
    • coming into a vegan thread and shouting about bacon and pork with MEAT in caps at the end. OK mate, OK.Hench
    • I eat meat too, and love it. But you my friend seem like a complete bell-end.Hench
    • Haha. Sorry to upset you.NickInfozure
    • And you wouldn't be so Hench without a bit of meat.NickInfozure
    • lol, not true there are raw veggie body builders that are TONK! ;DHench
  • randommail0

    Any sane doctor would recommend eating meat in moderation as part of a balanced diet, as with anything else. Any kind of extreme eating behavior, such as absolute exclusion, is usually frowned upon by medical/health professionals. Unless you had an actual medical condition that required extreme dietary behavior. ie. diabetes, celiac disease, etc.

    Veganism is not a health stance. It's just like any kind of group or sect, it's a means to an in-group and excluding others your group deems unworthy.

  • RW0

    Here it is...

    We are designed to be 'able' to eat meat. We are not designed to eat meat in the quantities that we do. Our whole body is not designed to process meat at the level the average person consumes it - i.e: every day. That's why meat sticks in the gut for so long.

    This black / white arguement is just ignaorance on both sides I'm afraid and I agree that it's usually meat eaters that feel the need to populate threads with such hilarity as - 'yea bro, I eat MEAT!'. Odd.

    There have been quite a few studies / some spanning decades that say Vegetarians can expect a longer life expectancy. Some have suggested that this is not just down to diet but also the vegetarians likely socio-economic status - i.e: they can afford to take more care of themselves. In any case, eating meat is not necessary; in fact, it's attributed to higher rates of cancer and diabetes among other things.

    What has happened is that, gluttony has taken over and where we have evolved as a species; to eat meat every so often, we actually meat every day and as part of every meal. It is not ideal and the intensive farming needed to feed our species, especially in the west - is not natural in any sense of the word.

    Anyway, that's my balanced take on it.

  • oey0

    I don't eat meat for almost 15 years, but I'm not vegan.
    I don't drink milk but eat some cheese. I eat one egg a week or maybe less. I do eat fish once a week. I don't do any propaganda.
    I respect vegans. I don't defend anything.
    Being revolutionary doesn't have anything to do with diets but veganism would make a big difference in the way the world is totally fucked up...I guess.
    or maybe not! fuck that, does anyone knows M.I.A. Dj name?!