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- Hench0
^ Formed, dude, and everyone else, please refer to the first reply in this thread. Problem solved.
- utopian0
- lol what's this from?Hench
- LOOOOLHombre_Lobo_2
- nightmare on elm street...5?mcmillions
- honestIy0
meat is food regardless of your pansy beliefs...
herbivore
omnivore < human civilization
carnivorethe only thing weird with any of this is that herbivores get all sanctimonious without realizing they're killing life to live too
- Hench0
What honestly said. The fact is this 3D reality we live in is a dog eat dog world, you have to kill other living beings or you yourself will die.
It's been scientifically proven that plants are aware of their surroundings and feel pain just like animals, so really what's the difference?
Do whatever you want, get on with your own life, stfu.
- show me, reacting is different than feelingformed
- sorry Hench, but everything apart from the last sentence is bullshit.lukus_W
- Lol I'm not even going to argue with you.Hench
- maybe just link to the proof that plants feel pain like animals ...? ;)lukus_W
- HHAHAH, what bullshit. Show the proof. they may react but they have no CNS so no pain..RW
- qoob0
- lukus_W0
Fundamentalism of any kind is pretty scary .. people who are fanatical about veganism / vegetarianism scare me a bit; in the same way that people who are fanatical about guns and liberty, or god do too.
The fact is, we don't _need_ to kill animals to survive - we have a the luxury of choice, and we can eat what we like and involve politics in the decision if we want to. There are thousands of ways we can live our lives - no one needs to conform.
We don't have to kill other living beings (or die). We're not living in the wild west or the jungle - most of us live in cities.
As for plants feeling pain just like animals - this sounds like complete bullshit to me .. especially when you consider that plants are made from a completely different cell type. It's a comparison which tries to show the similarity between animals and plants - when the more useful comparison is between animals and humans.
Eating meat is tied closely to masculine ideals, and I reckon a lot of people romanticise the process of killing meat and consuming it - and choose their point of view purely for the purpose of projecting a macho image. It's understandable, but a bit naive maybe.
Re. the article. The author might need to eat animal derived products to function - but I don't see why the alternative - of becoming a fully fledged carnivore - was taken when there was an intermediate step; e.g. becoming a ovo-lacto vegetarian, and seeing how that goes.
- Hench0
lol.. 'We don't have to kill other living beings'
Your body kills living beings by the thousands every day. If you didn't, you'd die. Bacteria, viruses, disease... are all 'living beings'. By the very nature of our existense we must kill other life forms to survive. As I said before and you wrongly disagreed... this existence is undeniably a 'dog eat dog world'
Look at the animal kingdom, most animals and insects for that matter kills other animals (and insects) to survive.
It's the way the world works.
I think a vegetarian diet can be great and you can certainly live a healthy and strong life on it now we have our nice soft easy lives with access to almost any food on the planet.
Almost every native tribe on the planet eats meat (or at least fish), by the way.
- I have never seen a dog eat another dog. Your argument is invalid.abettertomorrow
- lolHench
- a coyote is a dog. and it eats dogs.
BOOM!Hombre_Lobo_2 - Then they should call a "coyote eats dog world"abettertomorrow
- They should call a "coyote eats dog world" what?Hench
- They should call a coyote eats dog world and ask it how it feels on this subject.abettertomorrow
- ah, got it.Hench
- Hench0
I knew I'd get sucked into this debate eventually. But meh, do what you like - believe what you like. I'm going back to watch Liar Liar
- formed0
The point, and I'll leave after this, is that there is a choice. You don't have to kill any animals to live. That's a choice (and, rightfully yours).
Let's just not try to qualify it as a 'necessity', because it is not. If you want to eat meat, then you choose to contribute to the killing of animals (morals, free range, whatever).
Just as humans naturally kill each other, it's not something that we have to do. We choose to or not to.
My largest argument for it, in case you were curious, is simple economics. Eventually, we won't want to cut rain forests down for cows. We can grow veggies anywhere, and they actually help the environment. My 2 cents.
Most of it comes down to the poor name bad vegetarians have given it. There is this horrible idea that it is bland or boring, but it is not. Or that things have to have less salt, less carbs or whatever 'less' to be more healthy.
Like any food, it comes down to the cook.
Thankfully, there are more and more creative restaurants and chefs out there offering more creative offerings that simply taste great.
- lowimpakt0
most fat fuckers eat meat. don't get me started on those heart attack pricks.
QED.
- lowimpakt0
also, we didn't evolve canines to eat big macs and salty cooked bacon.
natural my hole.
- abettertomorrow0
I think we all agree that the subject of this thread is rather stupid...the girl justs wants attention.
- elloh0
there's nothing better than meatballs.
- added_valium0
I'm a non-practicing vegan
- auxillary0
In honour of this thread I will eat a fat, juicy steak tonight! Hurray!