15 year old shot in the head...
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- sigg0
At 50-60+ feet and running away there is no way the agent was aiming for his head. His heart rate is probably elevated, running on adrenaline, holding one of the immigrants down shooting at him after he threw a rock. I don't justify it but I doubt he was aiming for the head. Also I doubt at that distance he could instantly tell the kid was in fact 15, and not older.
- This is probably correct.TheBlueOne
- < thats all i'm sayingdirtydesign
- BattleAxe0
you folks are acting like rock trowing is a new thing , or some new way of attacking , it happens every fucking day
- dirtydesign0
i have to say if a bunch of people (potential smugglers/terrorists) were firing rocks at me and i had a gun. i'd probably shoot someone.
- Exactly. Rocks can kill, and if your only defence against the barrage is a gun...orrinward
- ...it sucks to be the guy who started the fight. Guns are just more effective than rocks.orrinward
- Firing rocks?
Terrorists? Are the brown people scaring you, dood?Peter - Well. Come get your shooting stick. It's your god giv'un right. Serves them terrorist, rock-firing Mexicans.Peter
- BattleAxe0
Confrontations on the Border are not new, not something unexpected if you are an Agent Patrolling the Border , the most common weapon is a rock and they are hurled daily from the other side our of smite or for what ever god dam reason , it was what youths do , they chill by the river bead and create mischief , every day,
if you live 100 yards from the Border and you have a riverbed next to your house , as a young street kid you will be inclined to hand out and create mischief , what good do you know at 15
- you sound like you're justifying this 'mischief' etc... ...and as for 'what good do you know when you're 15?'...PonyBoy
- ... when I was 5 years old - I was raped repeatedly by a 15 year old - don't fucking tell me young teens don't know any betterPonyBoy
- where's mom and dad?
where's the discipline?PonyBoy
- BattleAxe0
@Dirty and if you were a street kid and you saw your friend getting in trouble with the authorities you would run away right?
- no. i wouldnt throw fucking rocks at cops with guns either.dirtydesign
- if if if... .. dude - you keep justifying their mischief - why? If it didn't exist - nobody would have been shotPonyBoy
- vitamins0
Nobody caught this?
Arturo Sandoval, a spokesman for the "Chihuahua" Attorney General's office
- BattleAxe0
I have friends that are Border patrol , Customs agents,
they know this was excessive and out of protocol ,
no one is justifying shit, just stating that mischief along the river bed, rocks getting tossed at agents is as common as morning traffic ,
you sign up to patrol the border , you know the risk involved and are trained to react to them , this was an overreaction , not a common reaction as you want to paint it
- whatsup0
^ Perhaps it wasn't a "fair" fight. If the mexicans want to throw rocks. The border patrol should have done the same. They could have easily picked up their own rocks or had rocks ready in case of mexican rock throwers.
- SteveJobs0
i thought this thread was about a shooting that happened 15 years ago.
- BattleAxe0
this is your fair fight
U.S and Mexican Authorities have Mexican Stand off
http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_15…
- jfletcher0
Ugh. I know there are two sides of the story. The thing that strikes me, is I've been to Chihuahua and Juarez (most violent city in the state). The border is a tense area and that part specifically has a *lot of crime. I was in Juarez for 21 hours... 18 people were killed during that time... and the city is no larger than Seattle land wise. It's insane. Police with machine guns on every corner.
In the middle of a situation like this I'm sure people just freak out. Not that I'm defending the situation, and I'm not pleased about the US's stance in regards to Mexico overall... the whole thing just sucks :(
- DrBombay0
He shot an unarmed person. Don't forget that.
- DrBombay will never side with "the man"sigg
- Somehow you think it wasn't excessive?DrBombay
- This doesn't matter? http://news.yahoo.co…DrBombay
- fyoucher10
Rocks = weapons.
If I were to throw a rock at you, it would be considered assault.Use of deadly force is a judgment call though. What he should have done is shot the kid in his nutz or in his ass.
Then again, wtf is the kid doing trying to cross the border? Where are these kids parents? If you're going to blame the border patrol, blame the parents too.
- PonyBoy0
If the teen wasn't throwing rocks - this wouldn't have happened. Don't forget that.
- BattleAxe0
if we had an open border none of this would have happen don't forget that
- like we once didBattleAxe
- won't happen when the country to the south is as corrupt as they are... both the gov and the gangs - this is more on MexicoPonyBoy
- we don't exactly have issues w/the neighbors to the north... do we?... no - their children don't sit on the border...PonyBoy
- ... looking to start shit.PonyBoy
- We just shoot hockey pucks at you guys.ETM
- cuz we're hosers, eh?PonyBoy
- BonSeff0
if my aunt had a sack, she'd be my uncle. Don't forget that.
- ceiling_cat0
Throwing rocks at a guy with a gun? Not too bright there.
- PonyBoy0
I like Arnold Palmers, Don't forget that.
- bored2death0
That kid shouldn't have been in the bullet's way.