Israel attacks aid ship!
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- lowimpakt0
yea, that's the way it goes. same in most conflicts.
who are the other victims? I can't find a list of those that were murdered yet???
- u have friends and family over there? if u dont what is your reason to get the names?e-pill
- Holy cow. e-pill, do you just take what the media says at face value?FredMcWoozy
- did you even notice they said 11 people died in the oil rig explosion but not one family member has been on tv?FredMcWoozy
- lowimpakt0
^ e-pill... no relatives on the boats but I would like to know who they were, their backgrounds, their associations.
The reason I want to know is that Mark Regev was on the tv earlier (as usual) and he was saying that the people were hardline activists and forming a picture of who the victims were - i.e. he was implying that they were terrorists or Hamas activists etc
I want to know if he is telling the truth.
- since its an international incident involving multiple parties, that info wont be..e-pill
- made public unless you are press or family.. not likely you will find it on QBNe-pill
- why not contact your local consulate and ask them..e-pill
- fair enough. Regev should not then be making out they deserved to be killed becauselowimpakt
- they were "hardline"lowimpakt
- that is BS. They always parade the families out and release names to get public sympathy.FredMcWoozy
- JSK0
Publicity is the name of the game.
- utopian0
No wonder so much of the world can't stand Israel...
- it pains me you guys are easily mislead and manipulated. You ignore evidence to fit your perception.FredMcWoozy
- Fred, your the ignorant one.
Every argument from the other side you just swipe off the table.tank - half of the israelis can't stand their government__TM
- inv0
Didnt take many days before people stopped caring about this story =) It was on page 3 now =)
- dan53820
Only read pieces of this long ranting +broadcast.... so this all may have been covered...
1. Aid ships/convoys/whatever have been sent around the middle east while also carrying weapons (trojan horse style from all sides of this fight)
2. Israel boarded and they started getting beat by metal looking poles (don't really know what they are but if someone was swinging at me and I had a gun, well I think I know how that one would end<---this is why I don't own guns)
3. The whole area of the "middle east" has essentially been waring for over 1000 years (I never hear anyone crying for other lost cultures land like the Assyrians <---just one example of many).
4. Media will always be biast and not give the whole story (if it bleads it leads)So I ask you whats the point of picking sides? Just let them all finish the damn fight and stay out of it.
- What do the Assyrians have to do with this? Leave them alone - LEAVE THEM ALONE - Return their landSoulFly
- only mentioned Assyrians cause they lost a whole damn kingdom, nothing you can do tis what it is.dan5382
- The point of picking sides is to be on the side of good. Letting them finish the fight would be turning a blind eye to israeli genocide.madmanGerald
- and the up to 450 Hamas and Hesbollah rockets a month don't count?Amicus
- It all counts its just been going on too long to claim one is right and one is wrong. They've both been bastards to one another.dan5382
- Pixter0
"Irish aid boat holds course towards Gaza despite Israel warning.
(...)The Irish taoiseach, Brian Cowen, warned Israel tonight that he expected no violence against those on the Rachel Corrie."
"If any harm comes to any of our citizens it will have the most serious consequences"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/…
NICE
- hope the Irish put up a good fight.SoulFly
- Go, Ireland. Stick it to 'em, lads.Continuity
- FredMcWoozy0
Remember, the Irish supported Hitler but i wouldn't expect any of you brainwashed inept's to know that.
Keep falling for the propaganda. It shows your intelligence level.
HERE IS THE VIDEO THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE IGNORED TO WATCH BECAUSE YOUR BRAINWASHED FOOLS.
Is the BBC not good enough for you?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world…I am calling all you communists, socialists and fascist terrorist supporters out.
- Can't watch the BBC video because it doesn't fit your hate israel agenda? Cowards. You people should be ashamed.FredMcWoozy
- Tell me, Freddy. Do you read up on news from the other side of the ideological fence at all, son?Continuity
- Freddie is spoon-fed
Faux Fox Fringe News
on a daily basis.utopian - http://anglopapist.f…utopian
- Sadly Freddy it is you who is brainwashed. This is the footage the army created and released to try and justify their murders. They have stifled all other accounts. Your intelligence level is on par with most blind Israel supprters.madmanGerald
- SoulFly0
The Irish supported Hitler? They were NEUTRAL - didn't you watch the movie?
- FredMcWoozy0
Remember, the Irish supported Hitler but i wouldn't expect any of you brainwashed inept's to know that.
Keep falling for the propaganda. It shows your intelligence level.
HERE IS THE VIDEO THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE IGNORED TO WATCH BECAUSE YOUR BRAINWASHED FOOLS.
Is the BBC not good enough for you?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world…- It's funny bc your name is "McWoozy". Probably not even Irish. Bet your central American.TheBlueOne
- And excuse me, please send me link to how the Irish State "supported Hitler"...they were neutral.TheBlueOne
- Allied aircarft were allowed to base in Ireland, Ports were used by the UK...TheBlueOne
- ..over 70,000 irish citizens volunteered to fight Hitler...including members of my family...TheBlueOne
- So take a big cup of STFU and go back to your Aliens Control Obama videos.TheBlueOne
- Freddy, what you count as strong arguments are as weak as Liberace's wrists, boy.Continuity
- Uncle Freddie
http://anglopapist.f…utopian - LOL!Continuity
- http://en.wikipedia.…byname
- IRA != Irish government of the day.Continuity
- http://www.victims.o… , some aspects surviving to the modern day,byname
- Pixter0
"Keep falling for the propaganda. It shows your intelligence level."
Yes. Keep killing people just because your god said that's your land. It shows your intelligence leve.
- actually the Brits said it was their land. Post WWII.flashbender
- TheBlueOne0
I fucking hate David Brooks. He's the most mealy minded pundit in the universe. Yet the Times keeps publishing him. Today's fantastic insight:
"The Israelis were clearly not going onto those ships with violence on their minds. The extremists on the boats started beating them and then threw a soldier over the railings. The international community is indulging in the usual double standards when condemning Israel. The world delights in being outraged by Israeli actions but somehow is slow to anger at Arab state supported terror."
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes…
Ahem. *"...slow to anger at Arab state supported terror".
Really? Really?
I'm going to let go the whole concept that soldiers with automatic weapons lowered from helicopter gunships didn't have "violence on their minds" to focus on the second bit...
Can someone get Mr. Brooks on the phone and tell him we have in the last decade invaded, not one, but TWO countries involved in Arab state sponsored terror. One of them invaded on trumped up charges, in fact. Somethign involving Yellow Cake. We have killed countless people in this response. At this moment we also have robots taking out terror suspects in a third Arab/muslim nation (that'd be Pakistan). We have set up a vast shadow security operation with secret jails. We have upended established Constitutional law and I have to take my motherfucking shoes off to get on a fucking plane.
All because we are "slow" to respond to Arab State Supported Terror.
I would say the popularity of shows like "24" which feature a rugged, handsome American operator torturing swarthy arabic persons for vital information might perhaps fall under the "taking delight in being outraged" as well.
What was the last time the US voted against Israel in the UN Security Council? On anything? Ever? Do we have a popular entertainment program that features Israeli human rights violations in heart-gripping episodic fashion? Maybe a television miniseries about the sinking of the USS Liberty maybe? No?
Fucking someone give that asshat a reality fucking pill. But this passes as informed, conventional wisdom in the US leading national newspaper. We're slow to respond to Arab State Terror. What fucking color is the sky in his world?
- bump0
i don´t know who brooks is but i subscribe 100% to the quote you posted. maybe if you followed the european media you would know what double standard he´s referring to. i hear it´s different in the states. even when before they built the wall, when the buses still exploded, the reporting was biased against israel. but it´s gotten worse since then, djenin, the lebanon war from a couple of years back, the recent gaza invasion. the world media (i guess that´s what he´s referring to) are definetely not reporting the events in a neutral fashion. one could argue about the reasons behind the bias, but it´s there, definitely. he´s right.
- how can one be biased about something that's wrong? when it's wrong, it's wrong...pretty simple.
exador1
- how can one be biased about something that's wrong? when it's wrong, it's wrong...pretty simple.
- bump0
also, by "world slow to anger" the mealy minded pundit is probably not referring to the US + the willing. clears things up for you maybe.
- madmanGerald0
For those that would like a little background on this tragic conflict(no it doesn't go back a thousand years) and perhaps to enlighten some staunch supporters of Israel who have little understanding of how they got where they are today.
http://video.google.com/videopla…
- mks0
Does that photo look like it was taken at 4:49am? If the time is wrong, the date may well be wrong too, so I wouldn't call it conclusive evidence in either side's support...
- yaaawwwngeorgesIII
- I think I see that the assumption is made it's Pacific Time on that image. But hey, what do I know, right?Continuity
- lowimpakt0
What is the date order for EXIF data? is it yyyy/mm/dd?
Someone pointed out that the camera was only released in June 2006....
but since when are kitchen knives, tools required for use on a ship and bullet proof vests classed as weapons?
- http://www.nikonusa.…
- JANUARY 2006 -georgesIII - actually dpreview says it was released in feb 2005, The spin is atrocious on anything that comes out
http://www.dpreview.…georgesIII - http://www.dpreview.…georgesIII
- it is the D2Xs which was June 06.... still doesn't answer the q about vests being weaponslowimpakt
- http://www.nikonusa.…
- georgesIII0
I went and verified, it is not that hard,
anyways, still doesn't prove anything but it is interresting non the less
http://regex.info/exif.cgi
- georgesIII0
I believe this debate will end up the same way as every debate the world ever has,
in a cul de sac,
nothing will be done, no real inquest will be conducted, nobody will be inculpated.
same ol', same ol- Particularly since we, ordinary people who aren't in a position of authority, can't realistically do anything to change the situation.Continuity