Help with Budget

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  • kjw

    Can anyone give me a rough estimate / proposal for a full reworking on an internal Fortune100 company website? About 200+pages of information, sky is the limit - web development wise, what are we looking at?

    -Research
    - Exploration
    - Graphic Design
    - Programming
    - CMS
    - Deployment

    I have a number in my head but want to propose a figure that is reasonable / accurate.
    Thanks in advance!

  • ETM0

    Somewhere between $50k and $500k.

    • Why do people ask us to provide estimates with such vague/generic details?ETM
    • thanks bud.
      but maybe because u can help...
      kjw
  • raf0

    1K/day if you are a brick and mortar studio and have a suit.

    • thats damn cheap... 100/hr?
      but then again, if its a potentially large gig they sure
      partdeux
    • It;s 2005 anymore either. Charging clients $350 hr just won't happen.FredMcWoozy
    • Have actually dealt with companies in the Fortune 100 league? They spend.ETM
    • I worked for a large investment company, they were charged this in £ for development by agencies.raf
    • thanks raf. A little low, would be at least 3 - 4 designers & programmers. Good to hear the real world part of it thokjw
    • Do you have any idea how many people they were dedicating to this?kjw
    • I doubt it was more than one at a time..raf
  • ETM0

    Is there an estimate of actual hours the project may take?
    You say thinks like 'Research'. Well depending on what you are researching it could be 2 hours, it could be 20 hours. How can we offer anything without some actual info?

    How much experience do you have? Any outsourcing? Other contractors? Any legal requirements dealing with such a large company? Do you have/need liability insurance?

    Do you want hourly or day rates, or are you looking at the whole project? Are you estimating only or providing a committed project cost?

  • NONEIS0

    http://www.qbn.com/topics/597276…

    Did any of this logic change?

    • good find. Completely different project,diffrent idea.kjw
    • wanted to get another stab at an answerkjw
  • kjw0

    ETM thanks for coming back.
    actual hours on the project; unknown at the time. We are still fleshing out everything.
    My estimates
    4 weeks exploration
    50 hours design
    50 hours Information Architecture
    200 hours programming

    I would really just love pricing strategy advice for this level, better than...your costs + your profit = hourly rate.

    I wish someone had ideas on what other fortune 500's were paying for things. Or how much large campaigns went for. You can get that information for marketing campaigns, but im having a hard time finding them for actual web development projects.

    • minor outsourcing, some other contractors. No legal, no liability needed. Need project based advicekjw
  • goingpublic0

    50 hours design and IA for a site with that amount of info is not enough, that I know from experience. I don't know much about programming but I think that's also not enough...

    What do you mean with "exploration"?

    Don't you want to add a Project Management fee? Normally we add at least 10% of the total time for this and you really need that.

    A good advice: the client always has a rought budget in mind, just ask for it. It saves you a lot of trouble if you know this up front. Then you can already decide how many you want to put in it.
    Also, if the client gives you a budget, always ask for more. The won't tell you how much they really have, the will tell you the minimum budget.

  • kjw0

    goingpublic
    great advice. I will defiantly keep that at mind.

    I will be working with another firm, that will be handling the PM and some content work.

    Exploration would be time spent, developing an actual plan, coming up with preliminary designs, spec sheets, functional spec documents etc.

    Q: if im not putting you on the hot seat, where would u put the hourly requirements?

    • other firm, also limits my ability to just, out and out ask what the budget iskjw
  • utopian0

    4 weeks exploration: 16k
    50 hours design: 7k
    50 hours Information Architecture: 10k
    200 hours programming: 15k
    Total: 48k