Them Crooked Vultures
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- satan0
the trouble with josh homme.
the trouble is rock & roll is not dance music. let rock music be rock music and let dance music be dance music. let's not pretend rock music 'with a twist' is rock & roll. anyone who's been listening to the crooked vultures release and the sweethead album - which I just downloaded as well - will and should notice the difference. sweethead is rock & roll, while tcv is not. in fact, tcv pretends to be rock & roll but is not. aside from labeling, the sweethead album, in my opinion rings true, or authentic, while the crooked vultures release rings, well not fake by no means, but by no means true either. mind you, this is coming from a long standing qotsa fan. imho songs for the deaf is the best qotsa ever did and the moment it came out it was clear to me they would never top that effort. I saw the live shows at the time (with dave grohl on drums) and those are the best concerts I've ever seen, period. a big part of that is, I think, that nick olivieri was still part of the team back then. he brought the rock & roll in qotsa. after sftd, the qotsa albums sounded less rock and roll, and too much stylized, exactly my problem with the crooked vultures album. everything just sounds too perfect and well designed, aiming for effect rather than the heart. it's more like musician's music, too self absorbed and too self aware, to the point where it becomes a parody of itself.listen to sweethead, that is true rock & roll. I'm totally hooked on this album right now.
- satan0
oh and btw I saw the tcv show at paradiso in august and it rocked, but not so much as qotsa when sftd came out. totally different vibe.
- ismith0
Funny, I also just started listening to the Sweethead album the other day. It's really good, but it's easily just as danceable as TCV. The riffs are definitely more punk influenced, but I think Homme can play up the 60s/70s hard rock elements pretty well.
If I had to pick right now between Sweethead, Them Crooked Vultures, and Mondo Generator right now I would choose TCV– they just seem to have less loose ends than the others. I also mentioned I'm not a huge fan of Grohl's drumming here, but I think he holds Josh Homme together pretty well.
- fooler20
Just saw TCV last night in a small (1400 people) venue and it was pretty terrific.
John Paul Jones looks happier and healthier than anyone else he shared the stage with last night and he has to be twice the age of those guys.
Now I've seen every living member of Led Zepplin plus Jason Bonham live, this has to mean something on my rock n roll bingo score card.
Saw Krist Novoselic in the audience supporting his old band mate.
It was also good to see Dave thrashing on the drums again and not covering wimpy crappy 70's soft rock songs in the Foo's.- I saw Kris Novaselic with Eyes Adrift back in oh... 2k1 played with guitarist from meat puppets and drummer from sublimed_rek
- cannonball19780
things like this make me believe that there really is some rock n roll board room out there with a whiteboard and band members names written in interconnected circles with dollar signs sprinkled all over
- they're clearing not in it for the $ or they'd be playing bigger venues from the get go.fooler2