joshua davis bashing by CR
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- Rand0
link?
- Horp0
Thinking on from Neue's post, which opposes my personal view and yet resonated with me, I wonder if we've spent so long arguing about and trying to differentiate between 'web' design and 'traditional' design, and at the same time dabbled in the digitally led merging of 'decoration graphics' with 'information graphics', that we've overlooked a better way to separate two distinct specialisms.
Perhaps its time design and illustration parted ways again, completely, as was always the case before, and this current middle-ground cross-discipline all-rounder hybrid territory should be abandoned.
If design is allowed to be focussed on effective communication, regardless of the platform, it should be free of the frippery to become a clear and distinctive discipline that requires something software can never provide... a natural eye for order, logic, heirarchy and understated/restrained visual effectiveness, and it can call on the services of relevant image makers to add to the communication in more appropriate ways.
The 'illustrator' (for want of a better phrase) would then also be free to practice its craft and to get back to the disciplines that software cannot provide... a natural eye for balance, composition, drama, and an ability to underpin everything with a natural, instinctive ability to translate the mind's eye into a visual. It will not be stretched beyond credibility trying to turn itself into the framework, and will be tempered by the eye of a good designer who decides how and when it is used.
Its this image as design, design as image thing that's all wrong.
- which would mean 'Joshua Davis' would be framed within a design-led context, rather than being the context itself.Horp
- thebottlerocket0
Thought this last comment was interesting:
"It is no wonder people think designers are wankers, if anyone outside the 'industry' saw this exercise in futility, this attempt at 'debate' then they'd be justified in thinking its all a lot of hot air and not actually much doing."
- dyspl0
"what the fuck do you know about "journalism"?"
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So now I have to know about journalism to apreciate if an argument is poor or not.... good to know.I don't know a lot about journalism, true but I know this article is shit.
- digdre0
bad advertising is advertising too
- Horp0
^ Well that would be my arguement to CR too MrT... If you think he's irrelevant why mention it, why not fill your magazine with what you think is relevant, rather than making sneering snipes at the people who you consider to be of no contemporary relevance.
- Because the author was writing about the event and Davis was part of that event.Josev
- MrT0
If people on here haven't even heard of Mr Davis, maybe his light didn't shine bright enough or long enough for him to be beyond criticism for his current mediocrity.
- digdre0
Joshua fools them all!!
- cannonball19780
fapfapfapfapfap *enterkey*..... *explosion of colorful of shapes and jizz*
"Ericsson down, now onto BMW"
- digdre0
can someone summarize in 1 or less sentences what happened?
- 23kon0
Joshua is a nice guy, I had the pleasure to meet and hang out with him and others at Flash Forward in london years ago and at the Dreamless underground event.
I think creative review are just being a bit wanky, the article was probebly written by a fan of print design rather than interactive design i bet. It's absolute FACT that the best music and art of the world comes from chaos rather than from planning or following rules so it really doesnt bother me at all that Joshua creates his artworks from random scripts. Makes the work even more wonderful.
You can't knock the guy, he was a major influence on a generation of web designers like myself - leading the way with his flash toys and experiments that he even gave away for free.
- joshuas work is rarely interactive now - he does generative artfadein11
- cannonball19780
(puts popcorn in microwave)
- Mau0
Joshua Davis is a nice&funny fellow....
- refunktion0
i really like the jvst.us site work he did.
- his studio, they. i dunno, either way, its cool.refunktion
- airey0
there's a fucking echo in here.
- BusterBoy0
That IS funny...not sure why he would even bother responding to posts like that.
So anyone know how much Mr Praystation commands for one of his speaking engagements?
- calculator0
This thread is irrelevant.