That Will Teach You
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- bump790
BURN!
- jfletcher0
sigh... some day the recording industry will get out of the dark ages and stop acting like a bunch of greedy douches... but I doubt that will happen soon.
- Go spend a year working on an album to just have people download it. See how that feels.CygnusZero4
- probably doesn't feel like anythingPupsipu
- chossy0
How would you like it if you made a really nice art and print it off for people to look at and buy after spending time money and talent in making it, then a couple weeks later you see someone rattling off perfectly good copies for free and giving it away?.
- exactly. well said.hans_glib
- you mean like urban outfitters does?flashbender
- better than re-selling...NONEIS
- i'd love itMilan
- i'd like it finePupsipu
- flashbender0
$80,000 for each of the 24 songs
Yeah, that seems pretty fair.
- It's a figure which is supposed to act as a deterrant. Although the de-sexing stops me from doing it.chossy
- CALLES0
can't she hack a bank?
- flashbender0
I said it in a note, but I'll say it here as well to chossy -
you mean like urban outfitters does?
- chossy0
I have no idea who urban outfitters are.
- I do now..... A clothing store, I have no information to give you an adequate response.chossy
- They do to t-shirt design what primark does to Top Shop. Blatant copies sold at cut rate pricesflashbender
- Overpriced hipster gearTheBlueOne
- DrBombay0
How would you like it if you made a really nice art and print it off for people to look at and buy after spending time money and talent in making it, then a couple weeks later you see someone rattling off perfectly good copies for free and giving it away?.
Chossy, this would be more like if your art rep sued the conterfeiter and then never gave you any of the proceeds of the suit. This isn't the artists suing the copyright infringers, it is their reps.
- Orbit0
She aint Jammie by nature then.
- mikotondria30
That utterly reprehensible - the amount she is being ordered to 'compensate' is several orders of magnitude above that which she could have been demonstrated to have defrauded the copyright holders by... They have no right to just up and take other monies of hers as if shes some kind of fucking child who's got caught with some candy and had it taken away. It is not the courts jobs to 'set examples' to as yet unknown and unnamed others - it is the courts job to seek recompense to injured parties through the process of law - not to seek to educate or inform anyone else through it's actions - its not fucking cspan, jeez. If you steal $100 from me - I only want 100 back. Noone esle has any right to take another 10000 from you.
What bullshit.- she stole 1700 songs and they chose to seek compensation for a representation of 24 of those songs,chossy
- the amount they have sought is allot less than is owed.chossy
- 1700 songs at 1 dollar each....thats...erm... yes - 1.6million dollars, right.mikotondria3
- depends on how many people downloaded from her innit, that bag of 24 may have been downloaded more than once matey.chossy
- then THEY owe the money. Not her.mikotondria3
- SHE gave them the tracks.chossy
- They're still responsible for themselves, chossy.juhls
- mikotondria30
That utterly reprehensible - the amount she is being ordered to 'compensate' is several orders of magnitude above that which she could have been demonstrated to have defrauded the copyright holders by... They have no right to just up and take other monies of hers as if shes some kind of fucking child who's got caught with some candy and had it taken away. It is not the courts jobs to 'set examples' to as yet unknown and unnamed others - it is the courts job to seek recompense to injured parties through the process of law - not to seek to educate or inform anyone else through it's actions - its not fucking cspan, jeez. If you steal $100 from me - I only want 100 back. Noone esle has any right to take another 10000 from you.
What bullshit.
- Corvo20
I guess it's exactly an example that they're trying to set: isn't it possible in US law for a case to be given a certain verdict based on a previous decision?
- BattleAxe0
*opens up acquisition
- twokids0
what songs were they?
- fooler20
*force quits Transmission
- GeorgesII0
not enough, lets fine her $20.000.000.000!!!
LIDICULOUS!! this judge is LIDICULOUS,
repeat after me, LIDICULOUS
- jfletcher0
chossy - I don't like the idea of stealing music, but it will happen, it's a known variable. There are two options. First, try and stick to old methods that are crumbling...people will find new ways to get around buying music and steal it. I doubt it can be stopped given the nature of the net. Second, figure out a way to adapt. I don't know the best way for this second method, but a few artists are trying new things (Radio head, Presidents of the USA, etc).
Trying to enforce laws by assessing ridiculous fines is beyond lame. They are making an example of one person, but it won't stop the masses... and is pretty much useless expect to make this one person’s life miserable.
thoughts?
- I actually still mostly buy CD's for the art :D, but they are a bit expensive :(jfletcher
- Corvo20
One thing I don't understand is - was she making money from it? If not, seems too harsh to sacrifice one person's life when there are thousands doing the same thing. I mean, she got caught, it's the law etc, but couldn't they cut her some slack? Just seems too heavy. Who never did this? Who hasn't a trunk in the attic full of old tapes, xerox/photocopies (yes, these too are a felony), etc?
- this said, I actually buy records when I want something.Corvo2
- itsmitch0
The judge is clearly corrupt and/or in the pockets of the recording companies. Our justice system is not based on revenge or teaching "lessons" which is clearly what they're doing. She's not responsible for the people that downloaded the files from her system -- those people are responsible for their own infringement and should be brought up in other cases. The losses she is justified in paying to the record companies is roughly: $1,700 but actually $24 for the "lost" revenue of the only songs that the lawyers were able to account for. This shouldn't have made it out of small claims court. It's not like she has a warehouse of CDs she's selling on a corner. She made no profit. She didn't send people the songs. If there is a hell, these lawyers have a guaranteed place in it.