All you hip hop heads
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- its_only_me
Is Jay z's new song really called "My president is Black"?
Or is it a joke thing?
- Glitterati_Duane0
Young Jeezy has a song with that title
- neferiu0
That shit's called "rap".
- I hate when people try to distinguish the difference between rap and hip hop
Glitterati_Duane - as if rap is bad and hip hop is good. It's all hip hop. Rap is what rappers do.Glitterati_Duane
- rap is something you do, hip hop is something you livesublocked
- 3 elements.max_prophet
- I hate when people try to distinguish the difference between rap and hip hop
- its_only_me0
Ah ok someone sent me the jay z version http://www.missinfo.tv/index.php…
Still...it must be some sort of spoof or something.
- Glitterati_Duane0
Ya Jay's on the remix. It's a Jeezy song though
- CALLES0
pfft.. thats nothing... My Sun God is Black
- neferiu0
Glitterati_Duane I don't need to get into an argument, but you have to agree that there are some key fundamental differences between original hip hop as it began with crews like Cold Crush/Furious Five/GetFresh/etc. And the shit that's on the radio today called hip hop. Compare groups like J5 & Quannum or individuals like MC Abdominal, Roots Manuva, Etc and you get a much closer association to the old school - at least in the way that these emcees are *originating*.
There is a distinction between rap and hip hop -- i've been on sites / been to stores with both categories and I always go for "hip hop".
Not trying to be close minded... Perhaps you have a better name for shitty commercial rap?
- fight fight fight fight fightJimbo82
- Why is there always one "old school" nutter that always shows up in these type of conversations.
sheesh...its_only_me
- mikotondria30
Sorry, it's just a rubbish song no matter how de rigeur or timely it's sentiment.
- its_only_me0
So NWA isnt rap?
Hip hop is a lifestyle.
Thats why in my post title...anyone within that lifestlye (hip hop) may know about Rap...or whatever falls into that category.
- 7point340
i always liked wyclef's if i were president
- Jimbo820
Yo Dawgs, commercial rap is whack yo.
- Glitterati_Duane0
I don't like most of the stuff out today either. But like it or not it's all hip hop. Like everything in life... shit evolves the longer it exists. Sometimes for the better sometimes not. And that's subjective. I love hip hop from the 90s. People a lil older than me say that the 80's are where it's at. Kids today like Soulja Boy. (Go figure). But I can't judge them for that. People forget that when rap first came out everyone thought it was crap and not (real music) cause dude's weren't singing. And some still feel that way.
- neferiu0
I understand and maybe got a little on the personal defense a little too early in the game.
All I know/care is that there IS a distinction between hip hop music and a lot of the mainstream shit that passes today as hip hop music. I suppose it is short sighted to refer to one as Rap and one as Hip Hop, when they both are based around similar techniques/ideas/philosophies. I guess it's just annoying because one is virtually void of substance, whereas the other is built on decades of foundation & culture.
- Yeah I agree. I feel the same way sometimes. That's why Nas said hip hop is deadGlitterati_Duane
- He does'nt really believe it thoughGlitterati_Duane
- max_prophet0
fact: modern 'hiphop' is predominantly complete shit.
- Glitterati_Duane0
And by the way. Just because a store has a hip hop section and a rap section it doesn't mean it's right either. The awards shows don't get it right either.
- neferiu0
Im not even relating New to Old... yeah, there's an argument that whatever you were listening to in high school is going to be your preferred "style" of music till the day you die, but there is HIGH QUALITY original groundbreaking hip hop music coming out TODAY and TOMORROW that blows the shit on the radio away. Its not just groundbreaking cuz it sounds like old school shit, it's groundbreaking cuz it pushes the envelope of what hip hop represents, its about personal unique talent and flavour, originality and individual SKILL.
- autoflavour0
in germany they dont have hiphop sections, they have black music sections..
which is hillarious as alot of the cd's in there are by cracker german rappers.. as white as the snow
- brandelec0
- soulja boy barely counts as musicautoflavour
- lolGlitterati_Duane