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Ben Carson Says He Has No Memory of Running for President
Ben Carson, the retired neurosurgeon, stirred controversy on Thursday by saying in a televised interview that he had no recollection of running for President of the United States.
- Neurosurgeon heal thyself.detritus
- who is this guy?portmanteau
- never seen him in my lifedrgs
- Simple BenRamanisky2
- Uncle Ben?portmanteau
- bliznutty1
i'm just gonna go out on a limb here.. i realize society as a whole isn't quite ready for my ideas of a stateless society.
don't you think that anyone who complacently accepts the state as a 'necessary evil' and justifies its existence as necessary, whether they even agree with its policies or not, just believe that the state should absolutely exist - i mean don't you think those people deserve evil? i'll go as far as to say i feel it is NECESSARY that these people experience EVIL from the state - absolutely fucking necessary! it's like a simple lab mice experiment, where the mouse keeps choosing the poison over and over until it dies. ask yourselves, what kind of stupid logic can justify 'necessary evil'? in the meantime, may evil await you..
- Your entire argument stems limply from the assertion that society is somehow evil. Some of us don't think it as a 'necessary evil' at all.detritus
- i'm referring to the statebliznutty
- By the same logic you are participating in and helping fund "the state" (I'm guessing)...so aren't you also responsible?yuekit
- bliznutty0
i think what i am saying is that if you believe in the notion that you should be able to elect leaders over other people, use coercion to take other people's money for whatever agenda you or your candidate feels is best - then you absolutely deserve a very bad leader that uses your logic to do everything you don't feel is best. it is only fair. ebb and flow balance.
so all you Bernie supporters absolutely deserve Trump, and all you Trump supporters absolutely deserve Bernie.
you see even as polarized as your ideas are there is one thing you both absolutely agree on: you both believe it is right to force your ideas upon everyone else. take the ideas of the half (or even minority) and make it a reality for the whole. if Trump is elected and you wished it was your guy instead, then it is ironically good for you! fucking deal with it people.
- You have a better idea than democracy? Let's hear it!nb
- Democracy is far from perfect, but it's the best thing we've come up with, yet.nb
- Agreedportmanteau
- when did 'we' come up with it? exactly how much choice have you or I had in it since we've been alive? how much emphasis does society place on alternatives?bliznutty
- I meant agreed with you bliznutty manportmanteau
- i see you, port! ;)bliznutty
- By "we" I meant the human race.nb
- I'm sure we'd gain a lot by incentivizing the study of philosophy, but for now, we're mostly trying to make democracy work as best we can.nb
- "We" put it in place thousands of years ago in ancientngreece.monospaced
- its republic beechezyurimon
- nb0
“Is a democracy, such as we know it, the last improvement possible in government? Is it not possible to take a step further towards recognizing and organizing the rights of man?”
- Henry David Throreau, 1849
The one pervading evil of democracy is the tyranny of the majority, or rather of that party, not always the majority, that succeeds, by force or fraud, in carrying elections. To break off that point is to avert the danger. The common system of representation perpetuates the danger. Unequal electorates afford no security to majorities. Equal electorates give none to minorities. Thirty-five years ago it was pointed out that the remedy is proportional representation. It is profoundly democratic, for it increases the influence of thousands who would otherwise have no voice in the government; and it brings men more near an equality by so contriving that no vote shall be wasted, and that every voter shall contribute to bring into Parliament a member of his own opinions.
- Lord Acton, in his review of "Sir Erskine May's Democracy in Europe" in The Quarterly Review, 1878.
- These are not new ideas. To think that there is a better system than democracy just beyond our horizon is to belittle the magnificence of the idea itself.nb
- As HDT points out, most assume democracy is the last improvement. Maybe it isn't. But, it's no easy to task to replace it, despite the efforts of many.nb
- It weird seeing you quote HDT. Im guessing the context of the quote was against democratic approval of slavery... im confused what you are suggesting thodeathboy
- are you suggesting a more lib system of upholding ind rights, as HDT suggests, or more of something like bernie sandersdeathboy
- The passages quoted are the views of the original authors only and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of "nb", nor his subsidiaries.nb
- Seriously, I was just posting these to as a response to bliznutty. My point is that people HAVE been thinking about these things. That's all.nb
- so u google open thought to un democratic ideas to post something in response? I dont think youre being as honest as you can bedeathboy
- Not that it matters, but I didn't go googling to find these just to make a point. They are both well-known passages. Again, I'm not an advocate of these ideas.nb
- I merely wanted to point out that people have thought "is there something better than democracy?" for a long time, that there is some writing on the matter.nb
- so u don't support them. and just want to highlight other people have had different ideas... did u know water is wet? sorry just seems weird to me.deathboy
- I took bliznutty's posts as a criticism of democracy. I wanted to point out that others had criticized it too, and that we haven't thought up anything better.nb
- By the way, neither of the passages I posted describe a replacement for democracy. They only question it.nb
- Oh alright. Do you have any personal thoughts on the subject? Think thats what confused me.deathboy
- In short, democracy is one of the great accomplishments of man. It's not perfect, but it's the best we've got, for now.nb
- It's possible that humans will come up with a more fair or "better" system. But I'm not smart enough to contribute on what that might be. In the meantime,nb
- the best thing we can do is try to weed out the flaws in our system and finesse our democracies to work in the best way for the most people.nb
- deathboy1
Local 553 million budget review that did not get accepted. Some comments from the meeting.
"So there's not a single additional police officer?" Councilwoman Neoma Jardon said. "There's not a single additional person to address the issue of homelessness or the need of affordable housing issues?"
The mindset that an additional person to address homelessness or affordable housing would solve such problems helps to illsutrate the way elected officials think.
"I think we are all disappointed," Clinger said. "Part of what we are struggling with is the property tax cap and the way it is calculated it is restricting the growth of our property tax revenue. It fell from its peak at a rapid rate, and next year it is only growing at 0.2 percent. That is hurting our ability to provide necessary services including public safety."
Pissed off like a landlord with a rental increase cap that took out too much credit card debt when things were good. Completely ignoring its not the cap but the spending that increased. And the whole for public safety as a fake justifier. Especially without qualifying what is "public safety"
"I want this to be a council driven budget and not a staff driven budget," Schieve said.
Seems liek some werid egotisical concern that leaves out the public.
Schieve asked Assistant Police Chief Jason Soto how many officers he would need to adequately serve the growing population and land area of the city. Soto answered: "Ideally, we would need 50 more officers."
First of all what kind of question is that. What is adequate and to whom. What growth? Growth in people, crime or need of revenue? And how can the police chief answer so easily like the question was 25+25. Where did he even derive such an answer from? I'm guessing just a random number to a dumb question that is more about politics.
"The City Council would get a 1 percent boost to fund automatic salary increases for council members and increases in the cost of their benefits. Under a restructuring, the City Manager's office would get a 6 percent boost to fund the creation of an economic development office and other changes."
Complain not enough but still take your piece of the pie. And the last thing the city needs is more "economic development". The mayor has business interest in a part of town where I believe that 6% increase will go to and the only reason for it.
Im not sure there will ever be a good politician. The job only attracts the worst types of people. Think the big question is how to attract beter politicians. How to create an incentive system for better governance. Which I have no idea how to do accept their pay is based on performance like a typical job + public review of outcome. Maybe if you take away the guaranteed money and power it would attract a better crop of people who beleive they can do the job, exceed, and get paid. But also might create a different game of how they try to play the game.... i dont know.terrible wankers we currently have and mind numbing to see how they function and behave. fuck them all....
- IRNlun61
Somewhat older story, but how can there be assimilation in Europe if the political supporters of mass migration and forced multiculturalism, hate, or at best are ashamed of their own cultures?
- yurimon-1
This is actually a good point in which is ironic for my username's stay on qbn.
- nb1
- sofakingback2
Its good. watch it on netflix.
- deathboy0
pretty humorous perspective
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/po…
...Let me explain: Typically, presidential campaigns are funded via outside political action committees (PACs), which can be dominated by a few extremely rich individuals, or by larger numbers of big-money donors who give directly to campaigns and PACs. These people tend to be relatively savvy investors. When the venture they're backing seems to lose momentum in the marketplace, they're unwilling to throw good money after bad. So they pull the plug.
But, from the outset, Sanders has relied on online fundraising, from passionate small donors who give, continuously, in small increments. Not surprisingly for a candidate who has said that Wall Street's business model is corruption, Sanders doesn't appeal to billionaires with agendas, or to garden-variety millionaires who want to pony up $2,000 for a chance to take a selfie with the candidate.
So by relying on small donors, Sanders is, in some ways, turning the dynamics on its head. He’s created in his own economic engine that can power the campaign as long as he sees fit. But take a deep dive into the data, and you’ll see- irony alert - in this age of rampant inequality, the Sanders campaign has managed to redistribute well over $150 million from the have-lesses to the have-mores.
...- Right but ultimately those donations are going towards promoting a message they agree with, so I'm not sure you can really say they are getting ripped off.yuekit
- Also I bet if you looked the numbers a lot of those Bernie donors are actually middle class, rather than poor people giving away their last $30.yuekit
- oh yea it has many ways to be perceived, but i personally didn't think of it in terms as ill investments and wealth distribution. just a different perspective.deathboy
- this what you call it i think?
http://investorplace…yurimon
- nb0
"I believe it [the gender/bathroom issue] is the biggest issue facing families and schools in America since prayer was taken out of public schools," Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick told reporters.
Hahahaha where do you find these guys, America? The biggest issue facing families and schools? Really?
- as a member of the US population... who?imbecile
- muriKKKautopian
- where's that aldous huxley quote about sexual freedom being a convenient disractionterry_cloth
- nb0
NY Times writes an article about Trump's relationship with women. Trump is so mad about it, he tweets about it more than ten times in one day. Said article becomes the most read Times article this year, probably because of the attention Trump gave it.
I can't help but laugh at the thought that the Times just pulled a classic Trump-move on ol' Donny Boy himself.
- keep laughing, thats how he gets attention.yurimon
- as long as Hillary is out of the press it's all good.robotron3k
- what's all good? How so robo? Oh right you actually are a trump supporter. Wear it proud you silent minoritymonospaced
- It was a hit piece where even the women in the article disagreed with it. All his ex-wives and girl friends support him, which is pretty fucking incredible.IRNlun6
- Now they should write about Bill and Hillary past, but you know they won't. No big media will go after them.IRNlun6
- http://www.politico.…IRNlun6
- do we have a choice mono? Bernie and Trump are much more politically closer than Hillary. and I'm all for stopping a war hawk like her.robotron3k
- mono likes the war its racism he cant stand. lolyurimon
- wrong again, you stupid piece of shit moron fuckassmonospaced
- yes and you are always right,yurimon
- right without proof without answering or proving a point. that is the way of monospaced.yurimon
- look who's talking, you fucking retardmonospaced
- If you ever could have a focused conversation and pay attention to some of my non sarcastic posts, not be so sheltered information wise. you sensitive butterflyyurimon
- look who's talking, you drooling idiot ... you literally couldn't' even finish your thought or sentencemonospaced
- start looking at statistic in detail, their is enough historical data to show you and the like of you are obsolete in your delusional ideals. good day sir.yurimon
- deathboy0
this is gonna sting and be a reminder for people about the 200k severance
- A business is always tough to maintain when you run out of other people's money.PonyBoy
- Well that settles it! I won't be voting for Jane Sanders this November!nb
- but shes not running... its just hilary and trumpdeathboy
- lol at zero hedgemonospaced
- big take away is people in powers self interests and what they will do for prestige especially when they have no real interests in the businessdeathboy
- monos boy sanders is still golden.yurimon
- IRNlun60
Very detailed and disturbing, but important article to read.
Eagles of Death Metal singer Jesse Hughes talks about his experience of the terror attack on the Bataclan in Paris.
- No respected magazine would run this interview. Gavin McInnes asks some ridiculous questions, gets some ridiculous answers.nb
- ^ yep.fadein11
- ad hominemIRNlun6
- Not so much an interview, more mutual masturbation.face_melter
- Jesse Hughes witnessed this first hand. Magazines that refuse to tell the truth should not be respected.IRNlun6
- "The fear of offending Muslims is a terrorist’s greatest weapon." - G.M. ... what does this have to do with witnessing it first hand?nb
- "We’d rather die than be called a bigot." "You never see bad guys in movies who are Arab terrorists." Seriously? This is a shit interview.nb
- In what way is that wrong? Many convince themselves it's wrong, but there's countless examples of the fear of being labeled a bigot puts them in harms way.IRNlun6
- Dude, those three statements I posted were Gavin's QUESTIONS. Hahahahahaha come on.nb
- Should Jesse Hughes perspective not be told because it doesn't conform to an opposing political perspective? That is a great tool to avoid uncomfortable truths.IRNlun6
- Those questions are related to ignoring harsh because of fear. Directly related to Jesse's experience.IRNlun6
- 'harsh realties'IRNlun6
- Well, for starters, they aren't even questions at all.nb
- So? It was a conversation. I'm assuming it's not the format you're disagreeing with.IRNlun6
- it looks more like Jesse wrote the story and the "journalist" added some questions.sted
- nb whats your point? the eye witness account in itself is should be an insight. dont be mad that the left is collapsing under its own stupidity.yurimon
- IRNlun6-4
PM Trudeau assaults parliament member to cheers from his liberal colleagues. Let the spin begin!
- paging nb...yurimon
- lol, that didn't last long did it.robotron3k
- yeah no comments from the qbn libs now.yurimon
- #nonissueimbecile
- I guess it's cool to get all grabby in the Canadian Parliament.IRNlun6
- imbecile, it wasn't the hit, it was the apology... geez real palm to facerobotron3k
- #nonissueimbecile
- ^ #typicalliberalrespo...yurimon
- imagine if it was some one who i not speaketh the name.yurimon
- when you block someone from getting by, then stand in the way, don't wonder why when someone runs into you. reminder: yurimon, you're a dipshitimbecile
- https://www.youtube.…imbecile
- hipocrite.yurimon
- hypocrite for showing you an opposing view? i didn't watch the video, i haven't taken sides, still a #nonissueimbecile
- i get what you are saying. that wasnt the hypocrite part.yurimon
- well, i don't get what you're saying. because this video and the events that led up to it are all for political theatre and still a nonissueimbecile
- Guaranteed had he grabbed a woman the way he grabbed that guy there would be an assault charge.IRNlun6
