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- oey5
- lolfadein11
- Do you also get a strike for posting non-political content on the Politics thread?makeqbngreatagain
- sure, why not?oey
- uan1
- deathboy1
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/0…
After failing to win congressional approval for the funds, the Obama administration spent the money anyway and has now distributed about $7 billion to insurance companies to offset out-of-pocket costs for eligible consumers. The administration asserts that the health care legislation provided permanent, continuing authority to do so, and that no further appropriation was necessary.
Mr. Fisher, for one, did not agree, and his testimony is the first to reveal that some within the administration challenged the spending. Beginning in late 2013, he and his supervisor began having qualms about how the White House was planning to proceed. In combing through documents to make sure his agency could defend the spending in future audits, Mr. Fisher said he came up empty.
“Cost-sharing reduction payments are not linked to the Internal Revenue Code, as far as I could tell, directly anywhere,” Mr. Fisher, now in the private sector, said in his deposition, made public last week by House Democrats who feared Republicans would release selected excerpts. “There is no linkage to the permanent appropriation, nor is there any link to any other appropriation that was indicating what account these funds should be paid from.”
... this laws overstepping of law is shitty and the supreme court should never have passed it with the excuse
"Our permissive reading of these powers is explained in part by a general reticence to invalidate the acts of the Nation’s elected leaders. “Proper respect for a co-ordinate branch of the government” requires that we strike down an Act of Congress only if “the lack of constitutional authority to pass [the] act in question is clearly demon­strated.” Members of this Court are vested with the authority to interpret the law; we possess neither the expertise nor the prerogative to make policy judgments. Those decisions are entrusted to our Nation’s elected leaders, who can be thrown out of office if the people disagree with them. It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices." ...
clearly the law is to protect people from themselves, since no where in history has popular policy ever caused problems.... I almost want trump to win to show the justices how wrong they were.
- instrmntl0
Too scared to put this in POTD. Its pretty funny though.
- cbass992
Take a seat for this one! This is internet gold.
- jeezus i hope this isn't real, but if not i guess im not surprised. here is a congress guy https://www.youtube.…deathboy
- Seems nervous and trying to project a strong Trump like character.IRNlun6
- https://depts.washin…
well he's got that FAS in common with the kidterry_cloth
- IRNlun62
What a day for American politics. The worst day of violence yet from anti-Trump terrorists in San Jose. Women and men, completely unprovoked, being assaulted for supporting Trump. Where is Bernie, Clinton and the media to condemn this?
- trump needs some kind of security police for his rallies. maybe he could dress them in smart shirts. maybe brown ones? that'd look good.Greedo
- Trump has security. I'm sure blaming Trump when arrested will go over great with a judge. Don't be shocked when people start to fight back and defend themselvesIRNlun6
- i won't be shocked.Greedo
- Good. Look at Twitter when you get a chance. Anyone who supports this shit, enjoy the next 4 years with Trump.IRNlun6
- The fact that the Donald has been endorsing and condoning violence at his rallies and towards others since day one...he made his bed now he can lie in it.utopian
- ^
yet bernie is 6 to 0 for having riot police called for his protester where are the 100s of videos of Trump supporters commiting attacksGeorgesII - i dont see how that relates to his supporters peacefully trying to gather utop. bernie always has a smirk on his face when he talks about trump violenceyurimon
- his commie gamzimyurimon
- Speaking truth about illegal aliens is apparently enough to warrant mob assaults.IRNlun6
- Yet mob assaults still don't encourage Trump supporters to show up at Bernie rallies and assault his supporters.IRNlun6
- BusterBoy-1
That kind of violence is crap...not sure why its a surprise though when Trump advocates exactly this.
- GeorgesII-1
remember those days when the left was about freedom and personal liberty,
- GeorgesII-2
is this normal in a democracy?
you can blame trump 24/7 but it isn't his supporters getting riots called on them at every single turn for causing chaos,
if you do not condone violence done on others, because of who they vote for, then you are no better than the so called fascist you hatelook at the video and tell me you think this is OK!
https://twitter.com/Jacobnbc/sta…
- it's a perfect storm, culture is aimed at marketing shit to young adults and politics is doing it's best to appeal to the apathetic youth voteterry_cloth
- the ideological void of young adulthood is having it's every whim catered to, this is what teenagers want, low substance entertainment, they are getting itterry_cloth
- Popular culture itself is consuming this once great country from the inside while the children celebrate token social justice winsterry_cloth
- see famous aldous huxley quote that sums all this upterry_cloth
- she prob would be raped n killed if there was an environment of no consequencesyurimon
- what's the point of a statement like that yuri, what are you getting atterry_cloth
- very true terryIRNlun6
- no you cant condone this... but the flip side to this story is, and idiotic woman antagonizes a crowd, and gets egged for it.Al_dizzle
- https://www.youtube.…Al_dizzle
- http://sites.psu.edu…Ramanisky2
- no excuse psycho kids.yurimon
- GeorgesII-3
look at this, I guess this is also normal,
- BusterBoy2
Of course it's not OK. It's disgraceful.
What I would say...these thugs are more anti-Trump than pro anything or anyone else.
And of course Trump will accept zero responsibility for creating this atmosphere of violence and hatred.
- Just my opinion though. I know fuck all...BusterBoy
- A d Trump will be loving all this violence directed at his supporters.BusterBoy
- They are plenty of video where you can hear them shoot, "Bernie, Bernie, Bernie",
Even the MILO protesters at dePaul where shouting, "Bernie, bernie" can weGeorgesII - stop the victim blaming, if Trump supporters where attacking bernie supporters, while yelling "Trump, Trump," it would be all over the news and called terrorismGeorgesII
- it's a stretch to give trump credit for creating any atmosphere at all. trump didn't create the BLM bullies, he didn't create the lash back bigots, he is just aterry_cloth
- -n opportunist getting in where he fits in, just another hustler. the same as bullshit and hilldog reallyterry_cloth
- https://www.facebook…BusterBoy
- cool retarded race baiting facebook crap, how are your critical thinking skills doing. does correlation = causation in your soft head, jeez, so dumbterry_cloth
- Trump bears zero responsibility for this. Media is 24/7 calling him a racist agitator and useless Bernie and Hillary go right along with it.IRNlun6
- i mean really, i don't like the guy either but how stupid do you have to be to buy into this hamfistedly racialized drivel, c'mon guyterry_cloth
- If anything these are exactly the people Trump is talking about.IRNlun6
- ^ yepdrake-von-drake
- some people are too lazy to verify facts even if its 5 clicks away.yurimon
- So when Trump supporters beat up protesters, you guys made a big deal out that too right? .... Right?yuekit
- I see both sides wanting to be part of a grievance culture where they can point the finger at how horrible the other side is.yuekit
- Trump supporters beating up people? Where, when... do you mean the time the girl went into a crowd looking to start shit. That singular time? Eh?drake-von-drake
- Sure let's pretend it never happened
http://thinkprogress…yuekit - http://www.slate.com…yuekit
- I hadn't heard anything about those incidents (except the black dude, who was an aggetator). Regardless, it's JUST AS WRONG! I do not condone.drake-von-drake
- everything is so over racialized, it's deliberately divisive. but yea yuekit, you hit it on the head with the grievance culture. people are divesting huge amounterry_cloth
- You don't see any Trump supporters doing the same at Dem rallies. Not one has gone to purposefully disrupt and antagonize then cry wolf when they succeed.IRNlun6
- That's their game. Fuck with people then complain.IRNlun6
- Oh totally... the grievance culture is spot on. We're so fucking worried about pointing fingers and businesses shit afraid of being sued. Too litigious.drake-von-drake
- I threw away my democrap and replublitard voting card years ago. Libertarians will one day dominate or a version of such.drake-von-drake
- -ts of energy fostering these 'us vs. them' dialogues and these soft brained people eat it up. OP is case in pointterry_cloth
- Most of these groups are being paid and organized to carry this out. Not some organic group of people that got together from the good of their hearts.IRNlun6
- Twisted strategy of grievance culture. Do shit to rile people up, people react, and in response cry. Legitimate grievances are now perceived in a similar light.IRNlun6
- I think you're right. There is money at play.drake-von-drake
- People who destroy countries for profit have trillions at stake in this election. As I've said before we are in for a wild and violent summer.IRNlun6
- i don't buy that conspiracy theory stuff, it makes more sense that the target demographic that the media and politicians are catering to has gotten younger andterry_cloth
- younger. our whole culture is geared towards teenagers and we wonder why everything has gone to shitterry_cloth
- some malevolent shadowy force that feeds off our suffering is some scooby doo shit, it's far easier to explain than that. as we have gotten more affluent we havterry_cloth
- -e also gotten less practicalterry_cloth
- in summation, when the spending power and political base is comprised of teenagers everything is going to shitterry_cloth
- clinteastwood.gifterry_cloth
- *goes to shitterry_cloth
- I wouldn't say it's one shadowy force, but thousands competing for power globally. Every culture and civilization has them.IRNlun6
- Where there is wealth and power, there is theft and manipulation. I highly recommend a book named "Shadow Men" by Anthony Napoleon.IRNlun6
- What's brilliant to me is how he prefaces the concept of shadowy organizations stating it would be a mistake to point to a specific groups, race or religion.IRNlun6
- It's a thick, challenging, tough read, but very interesting look into public thought manipulation and shadow organizations.IRNlun6
- It's no coincidence that race, religion, politics, and these highly inflammatory topics are constantly drilled into our collective experiences.IRNlun6
- It's no coincidence at all, giving the credit to malevolent shadowy subversive powers pulling strings behind the scenes is some Scooby Doo shit though. It's allterry_cloth
- Right in front of you as clear as day, you don't need to lean on conspiracy theories for this one palterry_cloth
- The people with disposable incomes and free time are the ones who are catered to, and those people are the children, our society has become so affluent that theterry_cloth
- Demographic with disposable time and income is teenagers. Teenagers are calling the shots and it's no surprise everything is going to hell in a hand basketterry_cloth
- I don't know if you have kids but let me tell you, teenagers consistently make stupid decisions, like clockwork, you can set your watch to the stupid choices toterry_cloth
- -hey maketerry_cloth
- Agree with you and I don't label it as conspiracy because it is plane as day if you're aware.IRNlun6
- Teens are highly influential, but they do not have much disposable income or hard assets. Especially now. It's more a long game to influence their politics.IRNlun6
- Good god I believed some stupid shit as a teen. I don't have kids but do hope to have some in the future.IRNlun6
- the disposable income that our culture itself is geared towards is moving even younger to preteens now, hard assets cost money, teens have no expenses and are sterry_cloth
- -upremely gullible, the boys have found the perfect marksterry_cloth
- until the fed defaults we can keep this circle jerk jerkingterry_cloth
- next step is mass marketing towards toddlers, it's right around the cornerterry_cloth
- wheres numbers guy, he/she can take over for me from hereterry_cloth
- agreed. I do appreciate the conversation. if you get a chance to read that book please do.IRNlun6
- even with this countries negative attributes, this book really changed my world view of what the world was prior to this county's founding and what we're losingIRNlun6
- likewise. ok, i'll check it out, thanksterry_cloth
- terry_cloth0
Too $hort for president
- Ramanisky25
YES please.
Idiocracy screenwriter Etan Cohen talks to BuzzFeed News about his 2006 movie “coming true” with the 2016 election and the anti-Trump ads he’s working on with Camacho himself, Terry Crews.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/arianel…
- will only add to Trump's popularitydrgs
- yes, the popularity of being
most unpopular.Ramanisky2 - let me see, everyone made fun of Reagan, he was elected, Bush I, he was elected, Bush II, he was elected. Now they make fun of Trump, so time will tell...robotron3k
- ^those guys were no where close at being as unpopular as Drumpf.Ramanisky2
- reagan was unpopular as well, and you have help from the bernitards riot squads. same thing happened in 68. guess who got elected cause of it.yurimon
- http://sites.psu.edu…Ramanisky2
- Guess who else was unpopular? The majority of politicians who didn't get unelected.yuekit
- Complete fail of logic to argue that because something happened once out of dozens of times in the past it's likely to happen again. That makes it unlikely.yuekit
- always can count on bromansky to drop de factsyurimon
- fucking yUrine
http://sites.psu.edu…Ramanisky2 - fucking drek_von-jizzface
http://sites.psu.edu…Ramanisky2 - Meh, I won't care that much, I spend most of my time outside the U.S. at this point. It definitely won't benefit America to elect someone who viewed as ayuekit
- complete joke in most of the world, and would probably accelerate the decline of the U.S. globally. But maybe that's inevitable anyway.yuekit
- http://www.internati…Ramanisky2
- monospaced0
So the trump support crew is now relegated here and it's kinda cute seeing them pat each other on the backs being all pro trump, and not anywhere else. You guys deserve to stay in this dark corner of QBN not allowed out.
- wow mono, you just can't help yourself can you, you just have to have your daily dose of internet shit slinging huhterry_cloth
- jesus, you and drake are made for each other, never mind, have at it, i'll see myself outterry_cloth
- Monospaced: You are engaging in the very type of antagonistic behavior that yesterday's announcement attempted to limit.Moderator
- Totally. It's in the politics thread too and I'm pretty sure other people expressed their thanks on the exact same thing no? Twas the point.monospaced
- and I never created a political thread here so not sure what you're talking about drakemonospaced
- Delete this. Ban me. Whatever.monospaced
- I'm not upset. Was just showing my gratitude in exactly what the moderators made happen after others begged for it.monospaced
- I see people writing "fucking drake" and calling names after his posts. Is that not antagonistic as well? Please clarify.monospaced
- I never said that you did, don't put words in my mouth. There are those here that are anti-right and anti-libertarian that did. I just commented in them.drake-von-drake
- I didn't put words in your mouth. Don't be so conceited. Fucking prick.monospaced
- I may have been called out here, but you are the one with strikes. Also, nothing I"ve done here is pandering, you feels-filled butthurt little conservative bitcmonospaced
- dbloc1
- make America great Gainmoldero
- Animal abuse, typical Republicansyuekit
- Was reading this the other day, kind of interesting
http://mentalfloss.c…yuekit
