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- fadein117
- lolmoldero
- Hhis arm dropped low. Did he grab her by the pu$$y?chukkaphob
- she knowsRamanisky2
- she must be the rebellious daughter that hates himsince1979
- I think she's just noticing the person who said something off camera, whom Trump is reaching to shake hands with.monospaced
- She looks over, he shakes hands. Anyone who thinks she's avoiding a kiss or hug from her father isn't reading this right.monospaced
- The deek away from the cheek kiss.teh
- Ivanka's dick shirt tho: http://rumorfix.com/…chukkaphob
- COTDomg
- mono is right. yep i see it nowsince1979
- if anything, it's him accidentally ignoring her, not the other way aroundmonospaced
- yep I agree with mono on reflection - she is distracted.fadein11
- chukkaphob1
Hillary Clinton considered drone attack on Julian Assange - report:
https://www.rt.com/usa/361459-se…
The teased leak, dubbed an “October Surprise” is thought to be damaging for Clinton before the presidential elections in November.
The announcement will now be made at Wikileaks’ 10-year anniversary celebration in Berlin on Tuesday. Assange will address the event via video leak.
- was her quote on that verified as real? also, that scheduled announcement was canceledmonospaced
- "The announcement will now be made at Wikileaks’ 10-year anniversary celebration in Berlin on Tuesday. Assange will address the event via video leak."chukkaphob
- national enquirer. she also has sars. and did 9/11.CygnusZero4
- @CygnusZero4 still believes in Santa. Cause, you know, whatever the mainstream tells him, that's the truth.chukkaphob
- He should be scared. Playing power games like this will cost him someday. He's clearly got an agenda, which should place skepticism on anything he saysformed
- haha who doesnt have an agenda in politicsdeathboy
- You guys really think the U.S. would fire a drone in the middle of London?reanimate
- They do!monospaced
- the comments on that article are pure, bollock-brained, gold.face_melter
- oh boy.since1979
- RT is a the english language Russian propaganda arm. Take all "news" from them with large does of salt.wagshaft
- LOL. Of all the people she'd like to drone I seriously doubt he's the one who keeps her up at night. His ego is yuge.monkeyshine
- “Can’t we just drone this guy?” Clinton asked. She asks for killing and murder like it was a condiment for your hash brown and eggs.omg
- the people in the room with Clinton on November 23, 2010 laughed at her comment, until it became clear that the then-secretary of state was serious.omg
- Assange shouldn't be playing politics. It makes Wikileaks look like a propaganda machine. Which it clearly is now.formed
- Propaganda for what?chukkaphob
- are we just assuming the unconfirmed source is correct that she actually said this? I'm not defending this, I just want to know if it's even a factmonospaced
- supposedly we'll find out tomorrow if it's true or notchukkaphob
- Strangest thing about this announcement is how Assange had to initially cancel due to assassination threat...IRNlun6
- ... and no one bats an eye like it's a completely plausible idea. Strange times.IRNlun6
- No way in hell any of that is made up. Not the quote, not the onion-esque style writing, and certainly not the death threat.monospaced
- So fucking stupid. Who in their right mind would think she would seriously entertain sending a drone to get Assange. LOLzBusterBoy
- If this is Wikileaks "Clinton's finished" moment...hilarious.BusterBoy
- this was before he was trapped in the embassy - when he was a free man leaking shit that pissed her off. so no drone strike on london - wait for him to have afadein11
- walk in the countryside or something I guess... ha. but yes I have lost all faith in Wiki after recent events.fadein11
- anyone who really believes he has anything to say tomorrow is a fucking idiot anywaymonospaced
- utopian9
- hahaDillinger
- can he still take her place?drgs
- nope.dorf
- he has Parkinson'syurimon
- no he doesn'tmonospaced
- factmonospaced
- maybe you are correct, maybe the jittery nervous body shaking is a form of retardation.yurimon
- nope, he doesn't have parkinson's and he isn't retarded either, because that isn't a form of retardation... factmonospaced
- not having a back bone is infact, fact!yurimon
- he has a backbone toomonospaced
- funny thing is people with backbones dont sell out their constituency and get screwed out of shit. then kiss up like a poodle to their masters.yurimon
- lol @ mono "because that isn't a form of retardation" hahafadein11
- hey, I would know, everyone knows I'm the resident 'tard here.monospaced
- utopian9
- so good.sofakingback
- haha niceRamanisky2
- superb.fadein11
- greatnessBonSeff
- photoshop skills are excellentCygnusZero4
- hehehejanne
- BusterBoy5
Dear God, how'd you like this for a first family! The love & warmth between them all is overwhelming.
- could have tidied up a little before the photographer got thereIanbolton
- The decor looks like the choices of a man of the people. Go Trump - the gold leaf, penthouse living, bought wife man of the people.fadein11
- That lion looks depressed as fuckset
- To be fair. He seems to be genuinely close with his children and current wife. His children are disturbingly close actually.monospaced
- I hear they have lunch with each other every day. I don't even want to see my own siblings that often. They hire each other too. They love each other.monospaced
- who the fuck names their kid Baron?moldero
- Baron Trump sounds like the king of all fartsset
- no wonder his face is orange - 360 degree reflective surfaces and gold-leaf particles everywhere.Fax_Benson
- welcome to the presidential suite.omg
- I really feel bad for that kid. "We're rich son, play with limo toys you fuck"kona
- what if he is a good dad? now they play with buildings.yurimon
- lol play with limo toysset
- The toys likely belong to Donny boy. "Don't touch my cars!"BusterBoy
- CygnusZero411
I think this commercial has to be the greatest in the history of politics. Yeah its a little dramatic like omg the kids! Like kids really watch any of this and understand it, but its still so effective because Trump did say all of this shit, and its not out of context, he legit said this stuff and its as bad as it comes across in this commercial
Idk who put this together but good luck finding any political commercial stronger than this.
- the bully clip they played at the DNC tonight was pretty good toomoldero
- kids are voting now, don't you know that. weird how her videos have zero comments on them, this one is completely blank of comments.robotron3k
- Is that why you no longer work in advertising?2002
- lol, what you talking about? I got's my own office in the Mad Men building on Madison ave... I'm serious.robotron3k
- This isn't targeted at kids. To even say or think so is incredibly stupid.monospaced
- I also work on Madison Ave. ;)monospaced
- Which agency still has an office in Madison? Even y&r moved out of that area.2002
- whatthefunk6
In response to Moscow Mitch and all other MAGAts and their bad faith arguments regarding due process and impeachment I submit this:
https://www.politifact.com/truth…
2015: Republicans change rules in the House so they can subpoena Obama admin officials w/o involving the House minority.
2019: Democrats subpoena Trump officials using the precedent set in 2015 by Republicans.
*Dems use impeachment, a process clearly outlined and enshrined in the Constitution to try and remove a POTUS that has broken the law and who is unfit for office*
Republicans: “That’s not fair, where’s the due process, this is a coup!”Who believes this bad faith selective pearl-clutching MAGAt GOP horseshit - oh that's right, the wool over eyes blind sheep low information single issue constituents of red districts who continually vote against their own interests...jfc
- <---- Yupmathinc
- You're talking about overturning 60M+ votes... The Uni Prof has his head up his ass if he thinks he's making an apples / apples comparison.PonyBoy
- Those house rules changes in 2015 had nothing to do w/the anything like impeachment. If you wish to be 'fair' then provide the same...PonyBoy
- ... rules / access that both Clinton and Nixon had to both witnesses / info etc. Schiff controls the witnesses / the questions... all access.PonyBoy
- The new 'rules' just released and that will be voted on tomorrow and nothing more than what they've been doing - they're just putting it in writing.PonyBoy
- *ARE nothing morePonyBoy
- Are you arguing that impeachment inquiries are not warranted or proceeding constitutionally?monospaced
- huh? Did you even read what I wrote? Impeach till your heart's content... just be fucking fair to both sides.PonyBoy
- I did. It was a question.monospaced
- PB, you realize this is just the info gathering stage? You get that part, right? Before you put a criminal on trial.. you interview witnesses.mathinc
- These aren’t proceedings. The process hasn’t even begun.monospaced
- @Pony Did you even read the post? It spells it out quite clearly, and cites a law professor for the Cato Institute ffs.garbage
- So please spare us this "librals deep state" and "both sides" bullshit. Your sugar might be low, have a juice box.garbage
- yes, garbage... your post (as does the Prof) forgets that you're pushing to overturn a duly 'lected Preezy in which you'll be shitting on 60M+ Americans.PonyBoy
- And this juice box I'm drinking is apple-flavored... whereas I bet your Milk is chocolate... comparing the two doesn't make much sense...PonyBoy
- ... other than they're both wet.PonyBoy
- and lol @ your attempt to turn this into more than a fairness issue w/your 'libral derp state' comment. Perhaps you should get that juice box, son.PonyBoy
- Adam Schiff controls every move any Pubby makes during these closed hearings... right down to controlling the Q's of members and A's of witnesses.PonyBoy
- It is unfair to say the least... but you go ahead and try and tie this to something silly and conspiratorial to clear your conscience I guess. :)PonyBoy
- PB, did 60M+ Americans vote to have the president shit on the constitution? Probably not.FNP14
- Maybe they voted to have him shit on poor people, but certainly not the constitution.FNP14
- I'm curious though... you're quoting the right, garbage w/this 'deep state' stuff. Will you accept Michael Horowitz's report when released?PonyBoy
- When did he shit on the constitution, FNP? When he asked another country to investigate their and our country's involvement in fucking w/our election?PonyBoy
- That's not shitting on the constitution... that's doing his job. You might not like the information about come out in the Horowitz report either I'm guessing.PonyBoy
- Now... I'm walking away from this thread until that report hits cuz we all lack a ton of info right now... nobody knows the truth here yet.PonyBoy
- I counted 4:
1. ‘fair’
2. fucking fair
3. fairness issue
4. unfair
Lol, love the selective unbiasedness of MAGA! Wow, struck a nerve, huh...whatthefunk - All that shows is I got my point across... if you want to attach me to an entity you obviously hate, wtfunk— then cuddle-up in that security blanket, friend. :)PonyBoy
- Since you're showing you've obviously picked your reality w/out all the info... will you accept the Horowitz findings, wtfunk?PonyBoy
- fuck... I said I was stepping awayPonyBoy
- Actually, it simply proves the point I made in the post. This is anything but secure, the fundamental principles of our democracy are at stake.whatthefunk
- And MAGA doth protest WAY TOO MUCH!
If [Strawman argument],
Then why isn’t [Red Herring]?
Could it be that [Non-Sequitur]?
Same ol' circular nonsense I fear.whatthefunk - And let's be crystal clear. Impeachment is separate from removal from office, shouldn't conflate the two. First things first.whatthefunk
- Gotta say tho, it's telling ur first comment is "overturning 60M+ votes" like u fear a removal vote is forthcoming if impeached ¯\_(ツ)_/¯whatthefunk
- @whatthefunk Yeah, I didn't bother to respond to PB because he doesn't understand this on a very basic level. Let him eat at the kid's table.garbage
- It is basic... silly unfair practices that don't equate to that of Clinton, Nixon or Johnson for that matter just go to show what clowns Dems have become...PonyBoy
- ... the fact they have to have this much control should show you how full of shit they are.PonyBoy
- The levels of projection by PB here are.... oooof!! Intense. I don’t know how anyone can be that oblivious.scruffics
- okan. im calling bullshit.who and the fuck Cipollene and specifically regarding gender specifics... actually the whole post is devoid of of a coherent reasondeathboy
- i bet you cant even state any arguemnt you were trying to make. reason and logic is to make a angle and support it no tblindliy linking shit togetherdeathboy
- another reason i think you are a fuckin flesh lightdeathboy
- I can explain it to you but I can’t understand it for you as well.
#Thoughts&Prayerswhatthefunk - I'll try, speaking in deathboy's native tongue:garbage
- im how why the perception.of you dont get how im because try to be choherent? if not u have obviosly proved otherwise and now your not ....garbage
- in theend control is youre own illusion and why you cant admit is is ecause how i what get where you dont make what sense in the first place???garbage
- ponybyo is right haha but how are we ever toreally know and that is the fact what.you cant admit the source of the porblem is the problme itselfgarbage
- if we talk about perception then ill intuition it for my why. its served me pretty fuckin well ur such a sex toygarbage
- be aaa hahahaha. ... did he throw in some gender diarrhea too? the gibberish!monospaced
- the gender was directly related to the Cipollene... the quote is gender specific, begs to question exactly the context of said quote.deathboy
- the random slapment of quotes with no context than citing one sided points... which are obviously slighted because they are so obviously partisan. perhaps whatdeathboy
- you want to source your first 2015 rep point after teh copy pasta of random out of context quotes?deathboy
- and what do you think about the change on whistleblower testimony rbefore this? And why are soem whistle blowers protected and others questionable to dronings?deathboy
- why there is.no ivestigation into the obvious droning of genders is whatthe real question that nobody hasthe guts to ask? if u hadits right in front of your eyegarbage
- I mean, I tried.garbage
- garbage .. maybe my fault for trolling shit. I explained the gender quite clearly, but dont want ti writ eto many notes so hoped involved mroe informed anddeathboy
- know my reference. the drone reference is to hillary clinton asking to drone julian assange as as whistleblower by what seems to be an anon source. snopes saysdeathboy
- unproven... the hypocrisy in whistleblowing, anon sources and the like is being completely treated differently. Who daraws the legal lines? fair questions todeathboy
- ask on all fronts. ill end with a good word for you game though. fucknuggetsdeathboy
- nb5
"I have a great relationship with the Mexican people. They love me." - Trump, last year.
Now, this:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/03/po…Trump: "He [the judge] is a Mexican."
Interviewer: "But, he's American."
Trump: "He's of Mexican heritage."
Interviewer: "If you invoke his race as a reason why he can't do his job..."
Trump: "I think that's why he's doing it. I think that's why he's doing it."
Watch the whole segment, it's only a minute. Listen to him. Such a whiny little racist bitch.
- #whinylittlebitchRamanisky2
- But no...this isn't racism. It's just..... something else. Can't you see?BusterBoy
- 100% racist cunt and if you try and rationalise any other way, you're a total cunt as well.BusterBoy
- 40 years as a public figure and not once labeled a racist, until he runs for president. Great con the Dems have going for them. Keeps us angry and divided.IRNlun6
- Hahaha are you kidding? Bro, do you even read? He's been labeled a racist many times long before running for president.nb
- ^^ So you don't think he's making racist comments?BusterBoy
- No. Pointing out how someones heritage can be a bias is not racism.IRNlun6
- The Justice Department sued him for racist business practices in 1973. He tried to counter-sue them. Spoiler alert: Trump lost.nb
- "No he's not racist, just pointing out someones heritage" Yeaaa thats what hitler did too. lol.sofakingback
- Whats funny is I don't think you're lying. I think you really don't see the racism in this... but thats more telling about you and your personality.sofakingback
- I'm well aware in this hypersensitive world that pointing out someones heritage is equal to killing 50+ million people.IRNlun6
- Be honest, when was the last time you called a black guy a Nigger. Be honest, even as a joke. When was the last time you said a racist joke?sofakingback
- I'm totally racist. My White half beats my Puerto Rican/Native American half daily.IRNlun6
- See, I think you've been around racism your whole life and you don't know the difference. Im sure you have never experienced anything outside of it.sofakingback
- Did I say you were white? I said you were a racist. Stop trying to hide behind whatever ethnicity you probably suppress. And you know what?sofakingback
- I know what type of guy you are, because you just told me: "I have black friends" You're done homie.sofakingback
- Ha, keep reaching. Anymore stereotypes you want to draw from a tiny bit of information?IRNlun6
- You're done. Sit the next couple plays out Mr. 2% Navajo. lolsofakingback
- I think some qbn members just like to use the word racist. makes them feel good when its trump.yurimon
- hey remember this guy? http://www.wnd.com/i…
not a hypocrite...yurimon - amazing, qbn members get personal once they have no info to provide to disprove a point.yurimon
- hes not pointing out an issue of politics in a vacuum or singling out for no reason. a judge mismanaged an espectof his case based on what? can you answer this?yurimon
- Fucking yUrine stainRamanisky2
- Typical excuse. "Just throw the word racist around". Sometimes not the case, but 100% true here. The bloke is racist.BusterBoy
- Trump knows the bed he has created and he is sleeping in it. Presidential? Nope.docpoz
- Gangster? Yes.docpoz
- hey yuri these are factsmonospaced
- speaking of facts, you know non racists liberals have done more harm to the african american community, then trump ever would or could.yurimon
- Jesus Christ
Fucking yUrineRamanisky2 - my enchiladasGeorgesII
- You're the racist bitch nb. That's the racist "bitch."drake-von-drake
- Oops... http://www.thedailyb…drake-von-drake
- nb would never live in a black neighborhood yet everyone is racist.yurimon
- Jesus Christ
Fucking yUrineRamanisky2 - #whinylittlebitch
Ramanisky2
Precisely nb and Killary. You NAILED it!drake-von-drake
- Ramanisky26
Look at this disgusting ad ABC ran during tonight’s debates.
- PhanLo4
Reckon anything will come from this?
Mates with Clintons, Trumpy, Prince Andrew and tonnes of other freaks, it'll probably just disappear like it did a few years back.
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/je…- Lets hope the perv singsfadein11
- Robo's hero.utopian
- I hope everyone gets busted for this.monospaced
- Utopian, pedo is one of your LGTBQ... letters or have you not been able to normalize that like Trans yet??robotron3k
- What about this Robo? https://www.scribd.c…PhanLo
- wow—figured lefties would cover-up this piece of shit till he was dead given Bill Clinton-types hung at this Fuck's homes often...all aboard theLolita Express!!PonyBoy
- shoulda posted this in the 'News of the Day' thread so it could get on the home page - folks need to read about this pile of shit and see who associated w/himPonyBoy
- Utopian—this fuck is a hero to the left. He's a Democrat who provided underage children primarily to other democrats—sounds more up your alley than robos, yes?PonyBoy
- Plaintiff A & B waited 26+ years to file a lawsuit on Trump just 5 months before his election. Okayyyyy....robotron3k
- Trump's irrelevant in all this, I hope all the cunts connected to Epstein burn.PhanLo
- No citizen in their right mind would defend this. Ridiculous assumption that “lefties” would ever want to cover it up. We don’t cry fake news like some retards.monospaced
- Did everyone forget that Trump and Bill Clinton were friends before 2016? Ultra rich people don't care nearly as much about party labels as some of you seem to.yuekit
- Trump knew Jeffrey and flew on this plane, too....formed
- Also the guy who let him walk free before is now serving in Trump's cabinet.
https://www.miamiher…yuekit - He was also pals w/the Orange Turd before he revealed himself a republican (back when he was pals w/the Clintons)... but if you follow where all...PonyBoy
- ... Fuckstein's politically donated money ended up you'd see it wasn't w/republicans.PonyBoy
- Anyone who lives in New York or another big city is probably going to donate more to Democrats. But are you under the impression rich people of both partiesyuekit
- don’t all hang out together? They would be laughing their ass off at the plebs’ earnest attempts to blame it all on one party or another.yuekit
- I was reading about Epstein’s background. Turns out his money and power was mainly thanks to being close to the CEO who owns Abercrombie and Fitch,yuekit
- Bed Bath and Beyond and Victoria’s Secret, along with a bunch of other well known American shopping mall brands, weirdly enough.yuekit
- https://www.business…ben_
- I'm fairly certain we on the left have a pretty robust set of standards and criteria when selecting our heroes...see_thru
- ...of all the people to choose from, I'm sure Epstein’s not made the cut.see_thru
- Lol... it stings when your heroes let you down... I understand.PonyBoy
- sted13
- i_monk11
- nice logicsted
- yupBonSeff
- Cash for kids, what an attitude!robotron3k
- deathboy11
ukit on the idea of UBI, what do you think of simply getting rid of SS and the marketing mirage behind early retirement and bliss. Might be better to take off more time early in life and work later with more experience. Personally I don't really buy into the idea my retirement years are my best and where my money should be focused.
SS is 12.4% so 40k year salary would give you about an extra 400 a month (but now would need to be taxed as income). Money to be used now in the same thinking that money is best given to people to choose how it serves them best. Not snap or aid with restrictions. And 400 is actually a lot to a strapped 40k year salary. Many studies show 200 dollars would change so much.
Instead of UBI might it be better to focus on dissolving gov programs that are failing and not living up to the promises of the proposers who are now long and dead. This one would also directly effect the middle-lower classes the most wealth the caps on the tax and deadbeats just being deadbeats.
I think instead sometimes its better to go backwards and fix problems than just trying to toss bandaids because easier politically.
And on a side note I'd love to stop giving people tax benefits perversly incentivize giving money(power) to corporations and banks every month as 401k/ira investment funds. Another christian style promise of glorious future if you invest early. The non investment of people who know nothing is better than blind investment. A change in the culture of how our retirement investing is seen could help with more monthly funds towards things that are important now. While tuning down the banks power and manipulations. Pretty much every traded companys is trading over its real value. Like playstations on ebay at launch when supply is limited. But the constant influx of passive capital I think gives the banks so much leeway that price discovery is out.
- what kind of returns are you getting on that non investment?monospaced
- You really think it would be easier politically to cancel Social Security without replacing it with anything?yuekit
- HA no it wouldn't be easy rolling back terrible regulation is painful and quite negative politically. People like idea of free shit or get more than they paid.deathboy
- but instead of proposing more untested bandaids that might make things worse why not look rationally at rolling back poor policy?deathboy
- @mono Responsible savers has not been a a good option. Good guys finish last. Central bank policy has inflated asset prices so high right now.deathboy
- I hoped powell would stay strong on promise, but got spooked on liquidity and a massive quick collapse. now cornered. No longer is any market in control.deathboy
- but as far as question to ukit is concerned is not that a viable option to give more lower income peopel more captial they can choose how to use that works bestdeathboy
- for them, before any "extra" program. The whole pragmatist idea of milton friedman negative income tax is based on self interest and liquiditydeathboy
- But its about what make sense. Hard to say people need SS more in older age than poor people need 400. Be opinion. But UBi arguments stand on how extra incomedeathboy
- matters. Would you not be into that to alleviate suffering of people who might never make it or even see the money they pay now?deathboy
- I think you will end up paying for it one way or another. No social security or other welfare program for old people...well have fun living with your parentsyuekit
- for a third of your life and paying for their bills etc when they can no longer work.yuekit
- You forget that idea is a culture thing created by our programs. Is paying 8k a month for a dementia patient to shit himself and get enough medicine to prolongdeathboy
- worth it? Are you just hiding from guilt hoping someone else pays the tab? But i see you value long term for your view vs short term ppl who need itdeathboy
- You clearly don't want to pay the tab for the bills of elders. and want someone else to pay. do you think thats right?deathboy
- is your motive more selfish than altruistic in aiming to benefit others? think you make it pretty clear on valuesdeathboy
- which is he crux of the social issue. do we want to finance our elders? Of course we don't want that burden and look for a magical cure all from it. howeverdeathboy
- that cure all has been a larger part of our healthcare costs. We get what we deserve when we try to mask our true greedy selves.deathboy
- and that is plain irrevocable truth. no matter how you try to frame it to your worldview.deathboy
- Not saying there is a magical solution. I'm just pointing out that in the past (and also today in much of the world since a majority of countries don't haveyuekit
- social security), there was still a lot of time and money put into taking care of old people. The community paid the price, families took care of them etc.yuekit
- Social programs are really just a way to depersonalize that process. So it's not like you get a free lunch by ending the program, you're still left with theyuekit
- same problem to deal with. And I don't think the evidence by looking at countries that lack these programs shows that people are better off -- in fact probablyyuekit
- worse off.yuekit
- A lot of "time and money" is valued differently through cultures. Some cultures embrace life and death without expensive drawn out medical help.deathboy
- I think our particular culture in tryin to escape the burden and pacify our guilt is hoping for someone else to pickup tab and make it all last as long as possideathboy
- ble. to me it feels like running from the inevitable. logically should some one 80 have a million dollar hospital bill to live in a nursing home for 3 years?deathboy
- there kids if burdened by the cost would say no and culture would be different. but if we can float it amongst others than we can have our cake and eat it too.deathboy
- no guilt and no burden, besides visiting the dementia ridden nursing homes. This culture also has a negative effect not usual to alot of american prosperitydeathboy
- wealth is not passed down generationally anymore and is passed to corporations that keep you along enough to milk you for all you are worth. I think that willdeathboy
- significantly effect the middle class and help produce larger wealth inequalitydeathboy
- I think we simply someitmes look at thing incorrectly. Much like saying bless you to a sneeze culturally as we do with social security.deathboy
- Ignore the "promise" or rhetoric and see things for what they are. Not as we have been told to see them. Our current culture/system is hardly good for anythingdeathboy
- greater. Just sold poison as cure for shit instead of really dealing with what matters honestlydeathboy
- And you saying to depersonalize i see as saying to shed responsibility...deathboy
- Let me give you an example, I'm in Thailand right now which has no social security at all. So you might think people are saving a lot more money at work...yuekit
- But actually no, it turns out that every young person here is socially obligated to take part of their paycheck and mail it home to their parents every month.yuekit
- There's no law that enforces this, but basically if you don't do it you are considered a bad person due to culture, religion, etc. And parents get to decideyuekit
- how much of the kids' paycheck they get to take. So it's like they ended up recreating the same system anyway. Only difference is now you are stuck dealing withyuekit
- your family about money issues all the time, and you are more or less obligated to have kids, otherwise no retirement lol.yuekit
- As far as keeping people alive longer and the costs involved, I think this gets into some different issues. Such as the insane cost of health care in the US.yuekit
- So you want to unburden your self with familial guilt? That is selfish but i get it. I tell my parents you take care of yourself im have no plan on being yourdeathboy
- caretaker. Many people have kids for the idea of future safety. Its culture. But see what you are saying as, well purely selfish hoping certain societal burdensdeathboy
- will be taken care of for you. Even though i tell my parents they are on their own ill take care of them best i can to an extent. And even planning my lifestyledeathboy
- accordingly to fit downturns in without sacrifice even if it costs more upfront. im a super selfish person person planning for scenarios id prefer not to havedeathboy
- to deal with, but i dont think spreading the burden among others is a advisable goal. and i dont think the cultural aspect idea of retirement is rationaldeathboy
- personally im a workaholic and maybe why i see the idea of no work a fairy tale. again the retirement aspect is a cultural myth through liberal propaghandadeathboy
- it would be great to unburden ourselves of the idea of producing and live greatly at the expense of others, and if we ponzi scheme it to be we can all make itdeathboy
- work. reality is some people want to work and some people will have to work until death. The illusion of SS retirement is an outright lie. More so ifdeathboy
- you dont count the medicare/medicaid?.. Certain collective funding helps propagate ideas on longevity and non work....deathboy
- i think us white americans might have lost our real tribal values that say mexicans have. ( i joke all the time how they like their family for it and i dont)deathboy
- but it makes sense western thinking is of the individual in a society of rule and law, where family and collective is survival in areas where that is notdeathboy
- and there is something funny that an individualism with all its achievements will be pulled back down to a new tribalism status quo of the statedeathboy
- not on even looking out for you small not tribes interests. but systems are funny thingsdeathboy
- ha i love the upvotes when i call them out. wink wink manipulatorsdeathboy
- but come on seriously the upvotes is full of shit. again anyone seeing this?deathboy
- allthethings6
I don't understand the AOC hatred. Talk about someone who tells it like it is. And her reputation for being dumb or unprepared is pure misogyny.
Swing-State Democrats Move to Counter Party’s Drift Toward Left
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/a…
“I hope they realize that we could propose having a ham sandwich for lunch and they are going to call it socialist,” Ocasio-Cortez, a freshman from New York, said in an interview. “This is not new; this is what they did with the ACA, this is what they did with Obama.”
- She's the Sarah Palin of the Dems–a nice looking, squeaky voiced, dingle-berry. She's not popular,MSM is the only one crazy about her because she gets clicks...robotron3k
- I think she's intelligent, vibrant, forward-thinking, and self-assured, from what I've seen.
Which is probably what her detractors fear the most.Continuity - She's also one tough cookie to endure all the abusr she gets.
Were I American, I would vote for her.Continuity - *abuseContinuity
- except she's not as uninformed as Palin, not by a long shot, and she's OBVIOUSLY smarter than hermonospaced
- Here's an interesting tidbit about her...when in high school, she won an international science competition and they named an asteroid after her. She is clearlyyuekit
- not dumb at all, especially when you consider how many total idiots there are in Congress who are more than twice her age.yuekit
- However if Fox News repeats something enough times, conservatives will start believing it.yuekit
- If you want to see a real dem idiot, I present you rep, hank johnson.
https://www.youtube.…BonSeff - what sort of trauma has robotron endured to be scared of women, colored people, democrats, etc. what a lonely soul he must be.dorf
- She's a woman and not white. That's all trumptards need to know to throw their hate at her.ben_
- shes said a lot so far. nothing reasonable or intelligent. perhaps shes smart like trump in knowing knowing rambling shit and portraying body languagedeathboy
- or looking like you believe your own shit will get you followers... or crazy people lead fools all the time. A lot of it is just a confidence game. Humansdeathboy
- the LCD are wired by nature to follow anyone promising better since they are fools. hence mob rule failures of democraciesdeathboy
- IE allthethings tosses out comments about her dumb/unprepared at misogyny. Clearly opinion without even attempt at support.deathboy
- than a quote about a ham sandwich from her as telling it as it really is... again opinion, and a bit asinine. I see it as low brow way to spur idiots.deathboy
- No clear connection to anything ACA related or obama and the outright not stating any tells me shes just playing the fools. But than again logicdeathboy
- and reason doesn't go far amongst the mob. Why shit floats and systems slowly decay and fail.deathboy
- And that is why I find her stupid. Not on how she plays the game but that she has no substance to offer. Well except hand trump another victorydeathboy
- because trains across oceans are so fuckin brilliant... really ... cant believe sometimes i try to reason these thingsdeathboy
- lolmonospaced
- rail can't replace long distance international travel. GND refers to short distance - LA to SF, etc. how could a smart mind like yours not get that deathboy??dorf
- "Totally overhaul transportation by massively expanding electric vehicle
manufacturing, build charging stations everywhere, build out highspeed rail at a scaledeathboy - where air travel stops becoming necessary, create
affordable public transit available to all, with goal to replace every combustion-engine vehicle" from thedeathboy - horses mouth. to argue this nonsense... tell me economically if the plan made any sense and happened where would air travel prices be?deathboy
- and not in any case is it feasible at all, knowing what powers electricity, and more dead lithium ions, the tax on the poor which it is, and overall economicdeathboy
- costs involved. again why she has never said anything smart. more up there with build a mile high wall to keep mexicans out. seeign who can lie the biggestdeathboy
- and logistics of air vs highspeed rail. we talking 110mph at what cost and is it cheaper than current travel and is it faster?deathboy
- hmmmmmmmm no. why would a consumer want that? do consumers usually flog themselves for sense of better environment? here's episdoe 7 id recommend them alldeathboy
- https://www.youtube.…deathboy
- and come on who blanket statements shit like "build out highspeed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary" that has any intelligencedeathboy
- gonna have to dig deep with her to find any substance, and even that is more than likely futile or accidental bandwagoningdeathboy
- Ramanisky27
According to Republican Sen Mike Lee....
The solution to climate change is to fall in love, get married and have have some kids.We are so fucked!!!!!
- the entire presentation is something else. Watch, laugh nonstop and then cry.Ramanisky2
- The US can rise and become a nation of shaggers once again.PhanLo
- this is a joke right?nbq
- https://www.youtube.…renderedred
- This is the GOP's truth shining through. I am sure we'll get a logical explanation from our local fanboys soon.formed
- great presentation, shit ending, would love to see the directors cut. also that's a great example why creative people stay away from (practical) politicssted
- and they say cannabis makes u nuts...neverscared
- sarahfailin8
Trump speaking in support of Israel's occupation of the Golan Heights probably works against Israel, and it angers both our allies and our enemies.
But it excites his Christian evangelical base who want to see every Jew returned to the holy land so the apocalypse can begin.
- Coming soon on Netflixnbq
- Vice made a video on this base: https://www.youtube.…R_Kercz
- Can't wait for Jesus to come back and be the king of kings. Sending all my money to make it happen.PhanLo
- @PhanLo, is that really what they are hoping for? Holy shit (pun intended).monospaced
- Armageddon and the rapture Mono, it will be beautiful for born again Christians.PhanLo
- lol especially the kid fuckersmonospaced
- Listening to the majority report yesterday, they were like, lets build the third temple and bring on the red cow. see what happens, get it over with.BonSeff
- by 'kid' fuckers, do you mean children or baby goats? because that's 2 different religionsGnash
- take a wild guess Gnash (hint, remain in the christian realm)monospaced
- freedom3
robotron3k, what's actually wrong with socialism?
- You can vote your way into it, but you have to shoot your way out of it...robotron3k
- If someone has a good example of a Socialist culturally diverse country with a population of over 300 mil, feel free to post. Baby-sized countries don't count.robotron3k
- I think a better start to this conversation would be defining socialism, agreeing on a definition or context, and then moving forward.T-Dawg
- Because socialism and social programs are completely different things and are often purposefully misrepresented in order to sway public opinion.T-Dawg
- You Americans really need to crack open a political science text book, and read about how things like socialism and social democracy are defined ...Continuity
- ... and then finally comprehend that many people on the left in your country want social democracy, not outright socialism.Continuity
- And I'll give you a hint: social democracy is what NATO countries like Denmark and Germany practise, and looks nothing like, say, Venezuela.Continuity
- Like Canada, Denmark, Finland and the Netherlands.
All shithole countries, Robo?nbq - he said over 300 mill. citizens, nbq... and he didn't say a word about 'shithole' countries. Canada has just over a 10th our population—the rest don't compare.PonyBoy
- ... and robo also said 'culturally diverse'... the four countries you listed are at minimum 75% white and pasty.PonyBoy
- Oh, I see. The US shouldn't be a social democracy because it's not an aribtrary minimum percentage of lilly white people. Got it.Continuity
- Who the fuck said anything about any 'arbitrary minimum'? He asked for examples of culturally diverse countries over 300 mill that are socialist...PonyBoy
- ... and none of you can't simply answer 'none' w/out being facetious pricks. Robo has a point and nobody is willing to approach w/sense... bummer.PonyBoy
- The only point I see being made goes along the lines of 'we don't want this country to progress because it's not white'.Continuity
- Nobody said that but you, continuity... you're making shit up instead of answering robo's simple Q. The answer to his Q is 'none'.PonyBoy
- Pony, the question he asked is flawed. Deal with it.mathinc
- It is not flawed, Tommy... Demographics most certainly will come into play in any country that redistributes someone else's property.PonyBoy
- It's part of the discussion... just as much as 'defining' the diff. between actual socialism and social democracy is part of the discussion.PonyBoy
- Nobody, eh? So why bring up 'culturally diverse' in the first place, then? Pray, tell me what race and culture have to do with 'socialism'. Go on.Continuity
- Instead of answering his Q and making it part of the conversation some of you clowns are redirecting the tone toward race and that alone.PonyBoy
- robo has absolutely no point at all because nobody at all is pushing for a socialist America. That is as fictional as a Mexican border wall.monospaced
- Race is all this country dwells on lately, Continuity... right down to Will Smith not being black enough. ;) If you think for one second it's not going...PonyBoy
- ... jammed down your throat by the media / politicians as this discussion / debate moves forward then you're not living in reality.PonyBoy
- Socialist programs make perfect sense for a large, culturally and economically diverse nation. It’s essential to have some of those, like we’ve had for centuriemonospaced
- And let's be clear... he also mentioned population. I see each and every one of you jumping over that and hopping on race... proving my point.PonyBoy
- Socialist programs are definitely needed... I can't argue that. What I can argue is how they're paid for and whether they're controlled locally vs. nationally.PonyBoy
- Social programs people! lol, 'socialist programs' add to the confusion and are not the correct term.T-Dawg
- Tythe to the tax exempt church!BonSeff
- OR BURN IN HELLBonSeff
- GOP's version of socialismBonSeff
- Can we just step back a second? There is nobody pushing for a socialist America and that’s why freedom is asking why robo is so bothered by it. It’s not real.monospaced
- my bad, T-Dawg (you're right on the terminology... I was retyping mono's words... way to go, mono!!) :PPonyBoy
- Programs that seem socialist are necessary. Not even close to a socialist nation. Conservatives are fabricating something to be triggered by.monospaced
- mono, all this shit is framed around healthcare.. i.e. the insurance middleman scamBonSeff
- You really want the Gov running your healthcare, Bon? Been to the DMV lately? Or anything Gov-run / oriented? They're fucking hell hole operations.PonyBoy
- They run a tight ship bombing brown peopleBonSeff
- and yea, got my license renewed recently, in and out. although dmv is state run. found out my right eye is near sighted.BonSeff
- Where's your DMV and what State are you in? cuz I might have to move there. And, um-sorry about all your brown friends being bombed (whatever that was about)PonyBoy
- Things TMZ doesn't cover.BonSeff
- Ah... your other fav network then...Nickelodeon.PonyBoy
- actually, disney jr. not my fav but its all thats on in this house.BonSeff
- actually, disney jr. not my fav but its all thats on in this house.BonSeff
- "Because socialism and social programs are completely different things and are often purposefully misrepresented in order to sway public opinion."inteliboy
- ^ this. defeating to see so many fall for it.inteliboy
- disney jr?! you know old walt was a racist, right?
:P
*runsPonyBoy - dont get me started on the dystopian paw patrol police stateBonSeff
- Uhhh. NOBODY is saying let government “run” healthcare like the dmv. It’s only about the way it’s subsidized and covered ffs.monospaced
- Pony, I know this was 39 posts back. But redistributing $ is happening, but in reverse. Look at any data set concerning income inequality.mathinc
- Why is Plutocracy a more palatable choice than a Social Democracy?mathinc
- Is it to society's benefit that someone like Bezos has more than he could ever spend, while half a million people with go bankrupt for medical bills?mathinc
- Bezos is irrelevant. The problem is more with Amazon not paying taxes and the wealthiest getting handouts, while everyone else pays.formed
- That's the other part of it, definitely. Pony was talking about redistribution of wealth.mathinc
- i think Boris Yeltsin summed it up when he saw a grocery store in the US. "When I saw those shelves crammed with hundreds, thousands of cans, cartons and goodsdeathboy
- of every possible sort, for the first time I felt quite frankly sick with with despair for the Soviet people,"deathboy
- plus we have a shit ton of "socialist" programs in the US. Have any fixed the problems? And look at the baby step growths and costsdeathboy
- Our socialist programs have been the biggest program growth as percentage of gdp federally and on state levelsdeathboy
- yet they have done little to alleviate original objectives. they have also driven costs higher for non program usersdeathboy
- they have mostly benefited the rich people pushing them or people with interests in them.deathboy
- lets talk about that. no imaginary shit, but real effective collective gov programs that are a successdeathboy
- in the us right now. medicare? SS, the pension system? SNAP? HIgher edu funding? Public school funding?deathboy
- Im not sure I can honestly think of one success storydeathboy
- robotron3k9
Wow! Sarah Pali... er.. um...ah... Alexandria Occasionally Castro is off her rocker.
- it's humour, quite refreshing. when did Palin have humour lol.fadein11
- https://www.youtube.…BonSeff
- lol, hilarious.fadein11
- Heherobotron3k
- Off her rocker? She managed to finish the tweet with solid spelling, grammar and intent. Not even Trump has managed that in hundreds of tweets the last 2 years.monospaced
- I'll just take a beer... thank youPonyBoy
- Doh! I'm such a dummy... I get it!! She was a bartender about a year ago and she wanted to create an boozy theme. Like Martha Stewart!robotron3k
- Martha Stewart, who is smarter, more well spoken, more successful and a better human than you or Trump will ever be, of course..monospaced
- Just cuz she can spell and use proper grammar in a tweet doesn't mean she's not batshit crazy as far as her ideals / ideas go.PonyBoy
- we’re talking about this tweetmonospaced
- Her ability to write well was only used as an indication that she is not “off her rocker.” Some of her ideas are totally unrealistic but she’s not stupid.monospaced
- "off her rocker" does not equate to stupid... just means she's 'bat shit crazy'... which she is. Now if you'll excuse me I have a slow boat to Hawaii to catch.PonyBoy
- Yeah I know that. She’s not crazy still.monospaced
- zarkonite1
A basic analysis of the video proves it was re-edited. It was slowed down and then accelerated to make it look like a chopping motion.
- fake news!nbq
- https://twitter.com/…BonSeff
- he didn't assault her but he behaved like a dick and got banned. not news.Fax_Benson
- I watched the live video and at no point did he seem to be a dick, just being a journalist. But dealing with unprecedented levels of toddler-dictator behaviour.fadein11
- his job is to ask tough questions, which is what he was doing. no respectable leader would ever respond the way trump didmonospaced
- sorry Fax but I think this is big news cause you know they keep shouting "fake news" and then this comes in...oey
- typically dictatorial from my point of view and it follows a pattern.oey
- Faux Newsutopian
- Jim Accosted just set the example, look how Trump's treated in interviews now... https://youtu.be/tzJ…robotron3k
- Hugo Chávez used to this shit as well, denigrate the reporter and its TV network, proceed to not answer the question and spend 15 minutes in diatribe about...ernexbcn
- Trump's attack on the press is dangerous. Acosta getting banned for grandstanding and taking over other journalists isn't.Fax_Benson
- ...imperialismernexbcn
- the apex of stupidity and insecureness when u start a fight with the press.neverscared
- Well all of it is ridiculous, but at least you don't have to hear Jim Accosted voice for a while...robotron3k
- lol, robo, he's a senior correspondent ... his voice is heard regularly by many people regardless of trump's bitch-ass hissy fitmonospaced
- how can you even call yourself an American and support this kind of suppression of the press? you're a disgrace, to say the leastmonospaced
- Trump moved forward and Acosta got rid of the mic straight away. Alpha v Beta right their. Are you not entertained. enjoy the showDillinger
- If Trump had the spine to say he doesn't like the way Acosta talks to him and banned him then at least he'd have some integrity.zarkonite
- Trump is a total pussy.monospaced
- there's no suppression of the press. acosta can use all the words he wants to, whenever he wants too. he got spanked by a monkey is allGnash
- For trump it was definitely his was of suppressing cnn from White House coverage. Obviously Acosta still has a job. But the point I made stands. Strong.monospaced