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  • nb7

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-…

    Dark fucking times, America.

    I know robo and others will defend this as no big deal. To those I ask, does this really benefit America? Is the cost of this to your fellow citizens worth the outcomes?

    Is the loss of liberty and citizens' fear of government really worth the supposed gains you imagine getting from this unconstitutional enforcement?

    • robo & co. don't care about 'fellow citizens', or America for that matter. Fear is what they live for. Fear and hate. As long as they can carry a pitch fork.formed
    • @formed you forgot maniacal self preservation ;)renderedred
    • As one of the 4 people a color here on qbn, I don't like racist label "robo & co." I prefer "El más Chingón y mis Compadres"robotron3k
    • There used to be 5 of us but someone ran off Georgesrobotron3k
    • Robo's deflection tactic here speaks volumes.nb
    • How quickly you would give up liberty so that someone else cannot have it. Shame on you.nb
    • fuckin' a! robo, nobody ran off Georges to begin with. Secondly don't accuse people of being racist when they're definitely not.renderedred
    • You guys really short circuit when yo hablo Español... hard to believe Latinos are generally conservative. The people being removed have lost their caserobotron3k
    • And ignoring the leave order. This is not rocket science, don't you guys read instead of jumping to conclusions. They also return, so this ain't no big whoop...robotron3k
    • Also nb & co. being arrested is NOT a big deal. Change my mind.robotron3k
    • Land of the FREEutopian
    • Thank you Baby Jesus and God that I have the proper skin tone while living in this country under a Dictate-in-chief, Amen!utopian
    • I do remember in 1st grade having to hide my tacos for lunch because it was considered poor people's food. By 3rd grade I was trading them for burgers tho!robotron3k
    • Sorry that was off topic, just a weird flashback...robotron3k
    • oh robomonospaced
    • Honestly I think the U.S. media is making too big a deal out of this. Raids to deport people staying illegally in the country who were already ordered to leave?yuekit
    • The hysteria allows Trump to look like super tough anti-immigrant guy, and Democrats to fundraise, when really it's just the same thing previous presidents did.yuekit
    • all media hype. first quote bias shows it. point is to portray a reality that isn't really true. Didn't even try to provide lame stats says something.deathboy
    • not buying the fear portrayal. but am curious how ID and passports workout because states are different. CA illegals can have driver licenses, NV can't flydeathboy
    • without real ID or providing passport. better journalism might work such things into articles and how state rules hinder or cause more drastic measuresdeathboy
    • a fair and balanced judgement of ID's and how multiple bureaucratic offices must approach based on another set of rules determined outside organizations...deathboy
    • there is truth to that. my buddies wife was detained at texas border after visiting family in mexico. she fit a profile and had to go through all the red tapedeathboy
    • to prove she is a legal citizen. that kind of inconvenience comes from broken over complicated system. however not concerned with passports or ice raids.deathboy
  • colin_s9

    jon stewart still kicking ass and taking names

    • He would be a really good President.monospaced
    • You’d make a good president in comparison to what’s in the driving seat today manIanbolton
    • dang. he was very good at thatGnash
    • Stewart/Colbert 2020fooler
    • Where are all of the God fearing, Family Values, America First Republicans?utopian
    • we're not ukraine.... yet....deathboy
  • BusterBoy6

    • robowifenbq
    • Smokey EyesRamanisky2
    • exorcism?fadein11
    • Smokey Baconjmckinno
    • a hamberder with a wig.neverscared
    • She really must have a hard time sleeping at night..lying about a liar, day after day after dayformed
    • is that her "who farted?" faceBluejam
    • thats her i´am a fart face.neverscared
    • It's just catching her in a bad light. She's an angel.PhanLo
    • "Y'all gonna eat the rest of that possum?"Maaku
  • zaq10

    • Dems wanted something to come of this joke of an investigation. FISA courts used to handle a fake dossier led to this shit—brought to poor sports (dems)PonyBoy
    • *brought to you BY poor sports (dems)

      Learn to lose w/grace, assholes.
      PonyBoy
    • 6 guilty people, that is not losing P(h)onytank02
    • Silly old poor sports: https://www.reuters.…utopian
    • 6 guilty people? guilty of what? lol... process crimes?
      Nothing touched trump... and what's 'Phony' about telling the truth?
      PonyBoy
    • Look @ tank lose w/grace!!
      Jesus... Dems tried to say Trump and Russia stole the election... THAT was 'phony'... not some stupid 'lied to congress'...
      PonyBoy
    • ... 'Process Crimes' that may have slowed down procedure... but NOTHING to do w/Russia collusion. The entire premise of the investigation was PHONY.PonyBoy
    • tank.. you and folks like yourself still hung up on this stupid 'russian collusion' PHONY BULLSHIT need to research where this dossier that sparked all...PonyBoy
    • ... this bunk came from. You want to see 'phony'? Go back 2+ years to the source of the dossier and let the 'phony' flow over you like a warm blanket.PonyBoy
    • And to be clear... it wasn't just Dems doing this but plenty of Never-Trump Pubs too. Folks can't stop and ask what THEY did wrong to lose...PonyBoy
    • ...so they jumped on some retarded dossier that Hilla wasn't even going to TOUCH. Again-you haven't paid attention if you think 6 process crimes has...PonyBoy
    • ... anything to do w/Trump and Russia.PonyBoy
    • Even though your link was broken, 'topes... I found your article. Not a think linking Trump to Russia. All process crimes... the whole thing was based...PonyBoy
    • ... on absolute bunk. They got Manafort for tax crimes... tried to make Cohen a star witness who turned out to be a lying tool... everything else was weak.PonyBoy
    • And now I'll be lumped-in as a Trumptard simply for pointing out reality (one some of you still can't seem to handle - TRUMP WON, dipshits... now vote him out)PonyBoy
    • Too much coffee?inteliboy
    • lolmonospaced
    • Need more, please. I'll take another w/2 cream... now scoot.
      *pats your bottom
      PonyBoy
  • fadein117

    • mike pence swearing two women into congress with the Qur'an is about the most American thing I can imagine these daysmonospaced
    • crazy daysfadein11
    • Religion should be kept out of government and all aspects of life beside what people do in their spare time. It's all 'cult' like and odd.shapesalad
    • I agree 100%, shapesalad.monospaced
    • ...one Nation under God...Morning_star
    • The under god was added later btw, the founding fathers were pretty clear about the separation of church and state.zarkonite
    • https://en.wikipedia…

      It was added in the 1950s, it's a total sham.
      zarkonite
    • It's the same sky god.PhanLo
    • What does an atheist get to swear on?wagshaft
    • I'd grab my junk.zarkonite
    • they swear on their own honor like anyone does because gods aren’t realmonospaced
    • rElIGiOn iS DuMb. I Am vERy SmArt.
      You fucking pinheads.
      face_melter
    • Religion is stupid.monospaced
    • No it's not Mono. Dogma is stupid.Morning_star
    • tomato tomatomonospaced
    • There's religion out there without Dogma? What's smart about religion? telling yourself stories based on bronze age fabulations?zarkonite
    • There's inherent value in myth.Morning_star
    • fair enough, but there's no reason to live and die by themmonospaced
  • docpoz11

  • zaq7

    • lolSalarrue
    • Hahaha! But her emails!!!capn_ron
    • Hahahahahahahahahahh...fooler
    • Hehehe, Cohen doesn't have a pot to piss in... and Mueller is delusional. #maga continues at the speed if light!robotron3k
    • Womp wompyuekit
    • Funny. The giant presidential reality show continues!!docpoz
    • oh robo ... Mueller is not delusional in any way, shape, or form. You're brainwashedmonospaced
    • lest you forget, Trump tweeted this about Mueller in 2016: "Mueller is a great selection. Impeccable credentials. Should be widely accepted."monospaced
    • but of course, you believe anything coming out of the conservative propaganda machine, even if it directly contradicts what they said previouslymonospaced
    • typical idiotmonospaced
    • Oh the irony. My God robo, how mother fucking dense can you possibly be. Analogy: You're being robbed at gunpoint and the robberhobgoblin
    • has convinced you to blame your neighbor and police that they didn't stop them from robbing you, and you fucking believe it.hobgoblin
  • whatthefunk9

    Millennial Democratic Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, former campaign organizer for Bernie Sanders and a card-carrying member of the Democratic Socialists of America, who campaigned on a platform of universal health care, abolishing ICE, and a federal jobs guarantee defeated longtime Queens Congressman Joe Crowley by a whopping 15 percent, capturing 16,000 of just under 28,000 votes.

    The current chairman of the House Democratic Caucus and chairman of the Queens County Democratic Party, Crowley, 56, was widely considered a potential successor to current speaker Nancy Pelosi. He served as a member of Congress for two decades, and outspent Ocasio-Cortez—his first primary challenger since 2004—by an 18-1 margin.

    After criticizing democrats who accepted corporate PAC money, Ocasio-Cortez managed to raise $300,709, most of it from small donors in and around her district.

    http://gothamist.com/2018/06/27/…

  • kirshar128

    Let me just say, anyone that agrees with this situation of children and families being separated, #1 if you are a Christian, go ahead and turn in your Bibles. You're done. And #2, congratulate yourself for going along with one of the most immoral decisions I've seen my own country make.

    As a parent, this infuriates me to no end. There are better ways to deal with this yet we've decided to handle it in the WORST POSSIBLE WAY...

    You can't justify this and still call yourself a human being.

    • Oh yeah, and someone tell our AG that the Bible was used to defend slavery too. Of course, he's probably cool with that.....kirshar12
    • I can't help but feel we've seen something similar to this take place at another time in history, but I just can't seem to put my finger on it ...Continuity
    • Sessions is an unabashed racist.BonSeff
    • Agreed, and he hides behind "I'm just following the law" and Bible quotes.kirshar12
    • Merica, Bringin Back Ternment camps™jaylarson
    • i can hear mr squiggly say, (sessions) "I am not a racist" and see his beady eyes deaden in confusionjaylarson
    • While immoral, despicable, and unfustified, it seems more the rule than the exception when speaking of the US govt, sadly.mandomafioso
    • Sorry, this shit has been going on since the Obama days, in fact he encouraged parents to bring their kids, were your crocodile tears then...???robotron3k
    • this never happened then ... stop making shit upmonospaced
    • his administration was also not moronic enough to invoke scripture so callously and unconstitutionally to justify being bigoted, racist fucks.monospaced
  • GuyFawkes11

    AT&T plans to lay off and fire more than a thousand workers starting early next year, according to local reports.

    Across the Midwest, an estimated 600 workers were notified they were being laid off by the company on December 16, a week before AT&T announced it was doling out $1,000 bonuses to 200,000 of its employees in celebration of the Republican Party’s tax overhaul.

    http://www.newsweek.com/christma…

    • tax breaks working already.dorf
    • looks like the layoffs will be a fun water ride.omg
    • < Thoughts Ponyboy?kona
    • A thousand is a small amount considering how many employees they have. It’s the opposite of job creation and wage increase, but still.monospaced
    • opposite of job creation, so job evolution?omg
    • Job cuts you fucking asshole.monospaced
    • lol. they're getting rid of service to landlines and will soon provide better and faster service to internet instead. Sounds more like job evolution.omg
    • sure, but it's the OPPOSITE of job creation and wage increase, which is what the tax plan which Trump promised would result in more jobs and more $monospaced
    • you are, for some reason, talking about something else completely, deflecting to a completely unrelated pointmonospaced
    • But, just to be clear, YOU'RE saying AT&T is firing 600 people BECAUSE of the Republican tax plan. Think about it.monospaced
    • Sorry, not "firing" 600 employees, just laying them off the week before Christmas. Because of the Republican tax plan. That's literally what you're arguing.monospaced
    • It's almost like you're in favor of one of the largest swampy corporations on the planet giving jobs to "robots." Think about it.monospaced
    • Don't get me wrong. I think it's the right move to do. I just think it's retarded to say it's because of the Republican tax plan, that promised more jobs.monospaced
    • Maybe try linking to the actual information if you want to say something like thatmonospaced
    • Job evolution follows technology, from the demise of landlines to the wireless internet have little to do with bonuses and the Republic's Tax Reform.omg
    • Not sure where robots fit into this scheme. Other than your roboracism, robots do jobs that humans cannot do.omg
    • However the Republican Tax Reform would bring in funding to fuel job evolution. Perhaps that is where you were going with robots?omg
  • dorf15

  • whatthefunk6

    • +1fadein11
    • THISkona
    • Depressing that this isn't a strawman.garbage
    • Same shit, different beards.PhanLo
    • ^ that's a good oneR_Kercz
    • never seen kona get this excited about abortions before.omg
    • on that note, why not fund tattoo removals then murder strangle a kid while yer at it.omg
    • Happy Xmas OMG.PhanLo
    • omg, you don't really think you are getting anyone with that abortion morality shit, do you?monospaced
    • i believe in whatever trimester omg is in abortions.imbecile
    • Easy for you to support large scale gov't sponsored murder when a fetus can't speak. Where are your morals since you've no religious ones?omg
    • jesus mono you take the bait EVERY TIME.inteliboy
    • On that note, the suicidal tendencies and mood disorders on over 59% of women and over 261% for social anxiety disorders and substance abuse.omg
    • ... shows "abortion is clearly bad for women’s mental health that it falls second only to Islam" - milo yiannopoulosomg
    • omg only cares about children before they're born. once born, fuck em. #MAGAkona
    • the largest percentage of these folks are blacks, hispanics and others... why would kona support such large scale gov't sponsored murder in Chicago?omg
    • qbn sidenotes, THE place to debate about abortion!inteliboy
    • ps - omg, whilst you rant with us designers on Hillary, pizza, sjw's, abortion or whatever talking point of the day. The 1% ruling class sit back and laugh.inteliboy
    • intelliboy takes the bait!monospaced
    • AGAIN!
      ;)
      monospaced
  • kona5

    DNC - Franken must resign
    NRC - We support Roy Moore

    Sums things up quite nicely.

    • UGH.... RNC

      I'm dyslexic
      kona
    • its quite unbelievable actuallyRamanisky2
    • Explains why the Dems are losing most of the time...zarkonite
    • how so zark?monospaced
    • Because the thin skinned left and dems constantly are getting offended, distracted, bullied and side lined.inteliboy
    • whilst the right spew their bs narrative without giving two shits what the left think about it.inteliboy
    • Erase those negative thoughts with something positive. What you need is a daily affirmation.omg
    • ^ full on ruhtardRamanisky2
    • @inteliboy - that is what Bill Maher says a lot and I'm now starting to see his point. Left keeps taking high ground while gop rolls them over and again.monkeyshine
    • Actually this is a smart move for the Dems. Conyers and Franken resign (they can easily be replaced in Democratic states). Republicans elect Trump and Moore.yuekit
    • Looks terrible for Repubs and nothing is really lost by kicking out Franken. He would have struggled to be reelected anyway.yuekit
    • This is probably all some ploy from women to take over positions normally held by men.omg
    • lol @ "the left" - aside from Bernie "the left" barely exists in US politics.fadein11
    • lol, really? so ... getting worked up over sexual harassment is thin skinned, but it's okay for the right to declare that there's a war on Christmas? ffsmonospaced
    • NRA = RNC = NRCjaylarson
  • Fax_Benson8

    started following breitbart on twitter and it's as bleak as you'd expect. Makes me wonder what the alt-right do for entertainment.

    Can't go to the cinema (liberal propaganda)
    Can't watch sport (unpatriotic)
    Can't go to the theatre (too much virtue signalling)
    Can't go for a beer (in case need a piss and gender-based bathroom awkwardness scenario arises)
    Can't go outside (climate change nazis control the weather)
    Can't go away for the weekend (terror threat)
    Can't read the paper (fake)
    Can't see or do anything they don't agree with without shitting the bed.

    If an actor / musician / comedian / author / journalist / scientist etc utters a word of perceived criticism, said person's entire back-catalogue is immediately trashed.

    It's as though what the alt-right really wanted to claim back from the liberals was the right to be in a perpetual state of hair-trigger hyper-sensitivity. They're everything they say they hate about PC-gone-mad SJWs, and more. But without anything remotely fun. They're right that the Left is fucked but what good is that?

    • They must spend all their free time on the internet imbibing alt-right conspiracy theories. Scared, thinking they're unearned privilege is under threat.monoboy
    • miserable fucktardsRamanisky2
    • ...From Jews, Blacks, Mexicans, Gays, Liberals, Transgender people or whatever else they're shit scared of.monoboy
    • My favourite is that Paul Watson cunt. His abject terror of the modern world is hilarious. And he sounds like he should be down't pit.face_melter
    • Also, yuri's personal fave - Stephen Molyneux. The man is a walking back of cocks who created a cult of personality and scams people out of their cash.face_melter
    • i'm hoping one day Paul Joseph Watson will actually explode (with rage), caught on camera and the moment forever preserved on youtube.Bluejam
    • plus he said he was going to quit youtube, fucking cunt liedBluejam
    • this happens the other way round, of course. The alt-right just do it with such a joyless, pre-pubescent determination.Fax_Benson
    • ultimate cry-wankFax_Benson
    • Oh, I wish nothing but every form of cancer known to man and beast upon Watson and hope his final days are spent in absolute agony.face_melter
    • that's ridiculous, face. And exactly what he's looking for.Fax_Benson
    • *your anger, not the cancerFax_Benson
    • #magamonospaced
    • can't shop at Target because children's costumes are gender neutralmonospaced
    • end-timers are a dangerous lotjaylarson
  • BusterBoy4

  • dbloc4

    Despondent Trump Fans Find Solace in Fantasy of New 'Patriot Party'
    https://www.vice.com/en/article/…

  • lowimpakt11

    So to recap on trumps week

    (1) brought country to brink of nuclear war (2) emboldened KKK, neo Nazis, White supremacist militiad to march in his honour (3) had domestic White supremacist terrorists killing citizens using ISIS methods (4) suggested going to war with Venezuela

    Still

    No major legislation past, most senior administration posts unfilled, serious legal investigations into his existing administration

  • sted10

    • https://twitter.com/…sted
    • hahaha, NYC fucking HATES don the conmonospaced
    • when the lights go out, both the rats and libtards go out at night in NYC to spread their disease of hate and anger.omg
    • triggered much omg? trollcapn_ron
    • lol, omg, he barely got 30% of NYC, so those "libtards" run the city all day long, like they have for a very long timemonospaced
    • Most of the other 70% were looking for a welfare check.omg
    • that's probably the stupidest thing you've ever writtenmonospaced
    • He's probably trying to project his brother-father's employment problems on others.Continuity
  • CygnusZero48

    Obama was an excellent president. Rated 12th by historians and scholars recently. Came in office in an epic recession... 8 years later every single market much healthier than it was. And he had 75 straight months of job growth. I would not call that a band aid. It's lasting improvements that have continued into the trump administration, which of course trump is trying to take credit for even though hes literally done next to nothing as president.

    Obama didnt have the greatest job growth ever, but that was because the economy was on the mend. The fact remains that the job market and economy improved year after year during his time. He gets credit for dealing with a mess few presidents have had to deal with on that level, and made progress. It didnt get worse, it didnt stay stagnant, it was legit improving. Thats his legacy that cant be erased. Its in the history books permanently, the president that brought up back from the great recession.

    http://www.npr.org/2017/01/07/50…

    • And he had no drama at all during 2 terms. No Drama Obama, unlike Trump who has been nothing but drama.CygnusZero4
    • So this means that under great pressure and racism, Obama kept his cool, as good presidents should. He never complained.CygnusZero4
    • To say nothing of what Obama had personally endure during his presidency. Racism, personal insults, the sort of discourse that has no place in civil society.Continuity
    • Much of that virtiol, of course, coming from your current so-called 'president'.Continuity
    • At the very least he was a respectable representative for this country and an example of how act when you're a leader. Something Trump can't ever do.sofakingback
    • https://tericarter.w…BusterBoy
    • yupmonospaced
    • That was a nice moment. Looking back to remember the positive things. The "No-drama-Obama" years when racism didn't exist, when life had meaning.omg
    • omfgmonospaced
    • When personal insults had no place in society, a landscape of American beauty, an era we can call.... The double rainbowomg
    • I weep a tear and blink at the epic recession that does not exist. But alas, there is no band-aid for the one that pumps the red, white, and blue.omg
    • You are fucking hopeless. You disagree with everything said there, all those irrefutable facts?allthethings
    • Why so angry omg? What has you so insulted personally? Long gone are the days when you claimed to be a libertarian, now you're just an angry Trumpet.sofakingback
  • Bluejam6

    "Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible."
    8 Nov 2013

    -------------------------

    “Let Obamacare fail. It will be a lot easier,” he said. “...We’re not going to own it. I’m not going to own it. I can tell you, the Republicans are not going to own it.”
    18 July 2017

    • https://twitter.com/…Bluejam
    • love these postsfadein11
    • still not sure why they're so confident the ACA is bound to fail ... their entire hissy fit hinges on this presumption, which is not a guaranteemonospaced
    • His utter incompetence still amazes me. Wait until there's a severe natural disaster, hurricane perhaps, he'll fall apart.face_melter
    • It will fail because they've cut so much already. Why would insurance participate with so much uncertainty? The GOP owns it already.formed
    • All the GOP is doing now is causing uncertainty, which is the worst enemy of any market. They are ensuring our costs will skyrocketformed
    • and giving insurance 1000 reasons to raise rates.formed
    • true :(monospaced
    • @face_melter - yep will make Bush response to Katrina look positively fabulous in comparison.fadein11
    • It takes time to see results, 1-2 yrs, 50k fewer illegals each month, more jobs will appear, cheaper housing, safe neighborhoods, it will happen.robotron3k
    • Are you suggesting economic migrants are responsible for all of Americas woes robo?monoboy
    • https://www.bloomber…monoboy
    • Brexit will be a good test case for your theory. My guess is it'll have the opposite affect and crash our economy and public services.monoboy
    • Interestingly though, we will have to increase immigration for non EU (brown people) countries as part of new trade deals. Wonder how the racists will take it?monoboy
    • Ironic that vote based on 'foreigners stealing our jobs' will result in foreigners stealing your jobs.monoboy
    • Monoboy, economic migrants take social services, jobs, education from the lower income, less educated Americans. So they affect the less fortunate more.robotron3k
    • ^ either the word "illegal" must not be in the Antifarian dictionary or sixth grade level of education was not reached.omg
    • sorry, robo, but what jobs are the illegals taking exactly?monospaced
    • So while even the poor, retired, who pay taxes but don't receive the benefits.robotron3k
    • Anyone who pays taxes receives the benefits of them.monospaced
    • Did read the Bloomberg article? Immigrants create wealth. The issues you raise are the direct result of an unfair tax system.monoboy
    • Not only do they take jobs but they lower wages. A good example, Crider Inc, meat processing plant, 75% of it's workforce economic migrants.robotron3k
    • It's true, they may make more, but pay way less into to system. This affects the disadvantaged. Wharton has a paper on this.robotron3k
    • Wrong. https://www.bloomber…monoboy
    • The case you state says more about employers than workers. With correct legislation and unionisation. Exploitation would stop.monoboy
    • You could even lower corporate taxes.monoboy
    • Ummmm an op-ed piece monoboyrobotron3k
    • You're putting the blame in the wrong place. It's not the average Joe or Jose that's the issue. But lawmakers, legislators and land owners fucking you over.monoboy
    • More like a study http://www.budgetmod…robotron3k
    • I'm expecting fadein11 to be here any second throwing acid on me...robotron3k
    • Flag waving working class republicans are turkeys voting for Christmas.monoboy
    • robo, what jobs are they taking exactly?monospaced
    • and who in the current administration is even remotely interested in raising wages? those corporate swamp monsters are trying to destroy the minimum wage, ffsmonospaced
    • Based on empirical evidence.monoboy
    • I think robo, you are very confused. Many illegal immigrants take the jobs most Americans wouldn't, and they work their asses off for the opportunity.monospaced
    • Unlike your opinion it appears.monoboy
    • That article you posted concludes that immigration is a net positive.monoboy
    • oh omg and robotard - you really do not have a clue about the benefits of immigration like you don'r have a clue about solar power. Stop believing whatfadein11
    • you are told by suspect sources and start thinking for yourselves. And travel more. Get out of those bubbles you live in. Fools. Dangerous fools.fadein11
    • Correct I know doodley squat about solar power.robotron3k
    • byeeeeefadein11
    • but seriously ... what jobs do the illegals "take" that are so desireable? f'realmonospaced
    • the irony of the #maga BS is amusing. this admin is prob the final nail in the coffin of the US as the dominant superpower.fadein11
    • damnit robo, which jobs will be returning to the market now that hundreds of thousands of illegals are being deported or denied entry?monospaced
    • Is there some line of tax-paying Americans just waiting to get their crop picking jobs back? Are farmers just itching to pay $30/hr to seasonal day laborers?monospaced
    • what US industry have the hard-working, undocumented Mexicans disrupted so much that it's hurt the economy or any employer?monospaced
    • To believe that immigrant take different from native population is naive. Maids, janitors, construction, taxi drivers, chauffeurs, grounds keepers, etc.robotron3k
    • None of those positions has wages depressed bc of immigrants. They're low-paying jobs that the native-born don't want.allthethings
    • you think if all the illegal mexicans were gone, that people would be okay with taking those low-paying, low-skill jobs at lower than living wages?monospaced
    • If there's a person who's out of a job as a janitor, or maid, or groundskeeper, it's by choice, not because of Mexicansmonospaced