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- Bluejam6
"Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible."
8 Nov 2013-------------------------
“Let Obamacare fail. It will be a lot easier,” he said. “...We’re not going to own it. I’m not going to own it. I can tell you, the Republicans are not going to own it.”
18 July 2017- https://twitter.com/…Bluejam
- love these postsfadein11
- still not sure why they're so confident the ACA is bound to fail ... their entire hissy fit hinges on this presumption, which is not a guaranteemonospaced
- His utter incompetence still amazes me. Wait until there's a severe natural disaster, hurricane perhaps, he'll fall apart.face_melter
- It will fail because they've cut so much already. Why would insurance participate with so much uncertainty? The GOP owns it already.formed
- All the GOP is doing now is causing uncertainty, which is the worst enemy of any market. They are ensuring our costs will skyrocketformed
- and giving insurance 1000 reasons to raise rates.formed
- true :(monospaced
- @face_melter - yep will make Bush response to Katrina look positively fabulous in comparison.fadein11
- It takes time to see results, 1-2 yrs, 50k fewer illegals each month, more jobs will appear, cheaper housing, safe neighborhoods, it will happen.robotron3k
- Are you suggesting economic migrants are responsible for all of Americas woes robo?monoboy
- https://www.bloomber…monoboy
- Brexit will be a good test case for your theory. My guess is it'll have the opposite affect and crash our economy and public services.monoboy
- Interestingly though, we will have to increase immigration for non EU (brown people) countries as part of new trade deals. Wonder how the racists will take it?monoboy
- Ironic that vote based on 'foreigners stealing our jobs' will result in foreigners stealing your jobs.monoboy
- Monoboy, economic migrants take social services, jobs, education from the lower income, less educated Americans. So they affect the less fortunate more.robotron3k
- ^ either the word "illegal" must not be in the Antifarian dictionary or sixth grade level of education was not reached.omg
- sorry, robo, but what jobs are the illegals taking exactly?monospaced
- So while even the poor, retired, who pay taxes but don't receive the benefits.robotron3k
- Anyone who pays taxes receives the benefits of them.monospaced
- Did read the Bloomberg article? Immigrants create wealth. The issues you raise are the direct result of an unfair tax system.monoboy
- Not only do they take jobs but they lower wages. A good example, Crider Inc, meat processing plant, 75% of it's workforce economic migrants.robotron3k
- It's true, they may make more, but pay way less into to system. This affects the disadvantaged. Wharton has a paper on this.robotron3k
- Wrong. https://www.bloomber…monoboy
- The case you state says more about employers than workers. With correct legislation and unionisation. Exploitation would stop.monoboy
- You could even lower corporate taxes.monoboy
- Ummmm an op-ed piece monoboyrobotron3k
- You're putting the blame in the wrong place. It's not the average Joe or Jose that's the issue. But lawmakers, legislators and land owners fucking you over.monoboy
- More like a study http://www.budgetmod…robotron3k
- I'm expecting fadein11 to be here any second throwing acid on me...robotron3k
- Flag waving working class republicans are turkeys voting for Christmas.monoboy
- robo, what jobs are they taking exactly?monospaced
- and who in the current administration is even remotely interested in raising wages? those corporate swamp monsters are trying to destroy the minimum wage, ffsmonospaced
- Based on empirical evidence.monoboy
- I think robo, you are very confused. Many illegal immigrants take the jobs most Americans wouldn't, and they work their asses off for the opportunity.monospaced
- Unlike your opinion it appears.monoboy
- That article you posted concludes that immigration is a net positive.monoboy
- oh omg and robotard - you really do not have a clue about the benefits of immigration like you don'r have a clue about solar power. Stop believing whatfadein11
- you are told by suspect sources and start thinking for yourselves. And travel more. Get out of those bubbles you live in. Fools. Dangerous fools.fadein11
- Correct I know doodley squat about solar power.robotron3k
- byeeeeefadein11
- but seriously ... what jobs do the illegals "take" that are so desireable? f'realmonospaced
- the irony of the #maga BS is amusing. this admin is prob the final nail in the coffin of the US as the dominant superpower.fadein11
- damnit robo, which jobs will be returning to the market now that hundreds of thousands of illegals are being deported or denied entry?monospaced
- Is there some line of tax-paying Americans just waiting to get their crop picking jobs back? Are farmers just itching to pay $30/hr to seasonal day laborers?monospaced
- what US industry have the hard-working, undocumented Mexicans disrupted so much that it's hurt the economy or any employer?monospaced
- To believe that immigrant take different from native population is naive. Maids, janitors, construction, taxi drivers, chauffeurs, grounds keepers, etc.robotron3k
- None of those positions has wages depressed bc of immigrants. They're low-paying jobs that the native-born don't want.allthethings
- you think if all the illegal mexicans were gone, that people would be okay with taking those low-paying, low-skill jobs at lower than living wages?monospaced
- If there's a person who's out of a job as a janitor, or maid, or groundskeeper, it's by choice, not because of Mexicansmonospaced