Putin = Hero
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- kezza_20
does anyone else think this all smacks a bit of Hitler?
Change your constitution so you can stay in power, invade small countries and promote yourself as a cult and nationalism as important.
Scares the fuck out of me.
- No. Reminds me of Russia though.skelly_b
- Putin is a badass. Toe to toe with any other politician? My money is with Putin.Carl_Weathers
- Bush?BattleAxe
- Georges0
1st: he didn't change the constitution, if it would have he'd be still president.
2nd: who did he invaded
3rd: sound just like bushand ultimate point, my fellow Godwinian, you discredit yourself using hitler as a bad ass. don't forget that he had a majority of support when he was in power
- ...and was a failed artist and therefore, quite clearly, a bit of a fairy.anairn
- CALLES0
Famous Vladimir Putin tiger photo staged, according to environmentalists
- vaxorcist-3
Putin's probably got Herpes.... maybe that's why he has to keep itching himself....
- kezza_20
I was talking about it with a friend of mine who works for the UN Economics forum and he said something along the lines of...
Russia is a bit like Germany was in the 1930's, Was a seriously powerful nation, has been neutered and sent back to the dark ages economically by another world power, is starting to come back out of that mire (due to energy prices) and is seriously fucked off and wants back what it has in the 70's... Land, prestige and serious world power.
Also it's shit scared of China. Ethic chinese make up a big part of the eastern part of the country and they are worried that they will be overrun: http://www.gateway2russia.com/st…
"The history of Chinese territorial claims to Russia feeds Russian fears of a demographic invasion. The Chinese leaders, Mao Zedong and Deng Xiaoping, were both on record as saying that the Russians had taken too much territory and that Vladivostok and Khabarovsk by right should be Chinese. Chinese tribes had settled in the Far East long before the Russians came there. However, the region was never part of the Chinese empire, and when Russia established its control over the Far East in the mid-19th century, it signed a treaty with the Chinese emperor asserting Russian sovereignty over the region."
"During a visit to the Far East of Russia last year the Russian President, Vladimir Putin, urged local authorities to do more to revive the economy. "If people here will not regenerate their region and economy, they will all be speaking Chinese or some other Asian language," Mr. Putin warned."
And there are signs that they are tooling up to gain back what they see as theirs too, especially the Baltic states.
I reckon for what it's worth that they are the largest threat to European stability. They supply 40% of Europe's gas and they know it.
- I don't think they will ever regain the baltic states. Too much resentment and for good reason. The Baltics are on the way UP.Carl_Weathers
- ...way up with their economies now stronger that ever. I was in Riga recently and they drive seriously expensive cars.Carl_Weathers
- 40%? that's how much Canadian oil the americans consume!zarkonite
- You're right about the Baltics, I was in Lithuania in 1997, people wrere happy to be free of the Russian choke hold....vaxorcist
- anairn0
"I reckon for what it's worth that they are the largest threat to European stability. They supply 40% of Europe's gas and they know it.". Also, read as - we are one of their biggest customers, who in the mid- to long- term they have more to gain by keeping us on-side as a counter-weight to the American and Chinese powers.
Your friend was right in that they want to regain their prestige - for which they have every right to, but same could be said of the EU.
Russia is bad-ass and distinctly foreign in their outlook - but it will be our re/actions that dictate whether we enter another period of 'cold war'-like tension.
We've known since the fall of the Iron Curtain that we'd be entering a multi-polar world - and, unsettling as it might be, it's in all our interests to have it so.
- i_was-1
R.I.H
- kezza_20
Ok he didn't change the constitution, but he did something constitutionally unique in becoming the prime minister after being the president. A highly dubious and bizzare move
He invaded Georgia
Bush had a crack at Iraq, which was just plain stupid, but Putin seems more calculated somehow. Like he's getting his own back and tiying up gas supplies to Europe. Wait thats kind of what Bush did, but at least he's off.... Putin's going no where.
Not to add to that, assassinations in London, Oligarchs legging it to London, Ukrainian presidential poisoning, Vetoing anything that move in the UN. Claiming sea beds in international waters. Just smacks of someone on the brink of despotism.
hey just my opinion, not trying to pursuade anyone otherwise. but the EU leadership aren't happy:
Some quotes:
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"Europe is dependent on Russian energy supplies and the summit did not support stronger action that the Georgians had urged, such as a threat to expel Russia from international bodies like the G8, or warning the EU could boycott the 2014 Winter Olympic Games in southern Russia. ""By EU standards it was a fairly effective public demonstration of unity. And the EU countries agreed too, for the umpteenth time, that they must pull together an effective common energy policy that makes them less dependent on a Russia which currently supplies 40 per cent of their gas and a third of their oil."
"Rather, the eastern Europeans are drawing on their experience of Soviet behaviour to alert their western European partners to the need to respond firmly when Russia crosses the line, as all EU countries say it has done in Georgia. Their alarm is understandable because Georgia is part of the same former sphere of Russian control to which they once belonged. “Who will be next?” they are thinking."
and finally today:
"Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said Moscow would not ignore the build-up of NATO naval forces in the Black Sea, but would respond calmly, Russian news agencies quoted him as saying on Tuesday.
'The reaction will be calm, without any hysterics. But of course there will be a response,' "
Anyway, commie bastards are on the march again...
