TheKDU
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- killerqueen
If Derek started a company, it would be the KDU.
Yeah, David Gensler/TheKDU actually lists the clients of a bunch of loosely-collected designers and artists as their own. wtf.
- Jaline0
It kind of annoys me that they keep promoting themselves, but there are a lot of great designers who associate themselves with The KDU :/
- truetank02
- It annoys you, simply because you are a desperate cunt, that doesn't have a viewpoint.JesseJensen
- That will spend eternity trying to convince people of your delusional fantasy...JesseJensen
- Which is why you deserve the worst imaginable punishment.JesseJensen
- Jesse sounds like a bitter ex-boyfriend. If not of Jalines, then of someone elses.killerqueen
- uncalled for.tank02
- You both sound like you need to be fed face first.JesseJensen
- knack knack knackJesseJensen
- Lates.JesseJensen
- how though of you, big mouth behind the computerscreen. you feel gratified now?
tank02 - Not yet bro...JesseJensen
- Now I am though, you stunted fuckin' retard.JesseJensen
- ok, whatever man.tank02
- Ignore him. It's easy and it works.Jaline
- THIS IS NOT A CHAT WINDOWS!
move alongDrno - what the fuck is happening here?Randd
- hi mom!NewElpaso
- You know what Jaline. Instead of trying to get on your nerves...JesseJensen
- I'd rather have a giant fish hook pierced into your parents throats. Meanwhile...JesseJensen
- As the are drug behind a boat being fed to fish. You just sit there and watch...JesseJensen
- As you are slowly dipped into a pool of acid. Therefore, as you are slowly dissolving...JesseJensen
- Your brain shuts off from the pain...JesseJensen
- ...and the pooping of the pants begins?ElectroLAX3000
- "Best party ever...that's what everyone's sayin."JackRyan
- wow... now i hope my mom isnt watching this..NewElpaso
- keep going...this could be the largest note ever.Jaline
- ~~~~ end ~~~~kalkal
- whats the limit on this thing?NewElpaso
- no idea.
∞
Jaline - now?inhaler97
- its 99. The limit. Its 99. Ask Vrmbr. Quote reference "Small Dog's Arse" and he'll know what you mean.Spookytim
- killerqueen0
That's because it's a hype machine. It's not any different than DepthCore to be honest...lots of artists, designers, many of the same ones in the KDU, knocking out some experimental and fun projects for giggles.
It's just that DepthCore doesn't pretend it's some international company.
- killerqueen0
And I fucking dare that Flavor-flav KDU hypeman "son" to come in this thread.
- son0
it is shame that idiots that know nothing about the structure or operations of an organization and company have the balls to actually comment. congratulations on having enough time to write your dribble and not matter. the "hype" created is because it is just that damn good... we will keep doing "us" and you can keep doing you... obscure and unknown, stuck comfortably in those dark shadows. now spout back some shit about Dave sucking or being a fraud or the client list not being real or some other stupid shit... and once again.. we will keep shining and progressing and you WILL STILL BE WORTHLESS AND UNKNOWN. We put out more projects around the world than any other group. We attract the best of the best for a reason. The best part about being "us" is that we know it pisses off people like "you". This brings us great joy. thanks for having no talent, vision, competitive nature or a fucking opinion worth paying attention to. It is shame that your jealously makes you so transparent and predictable. Being predictable should be a crime... you are a broken record. Change it up and CHALLENGE US... we will gladly destroy you. from the heart and soul of the fake ugly hype monster know as the KDU.
- wow - you sound like you play world of warcraft... you're coolNewElpaso
- wow Son, before the KDU it was all about God and humility. Now you sound hateful and petty... have they corrupted you?epigraph
- corrupted you?epigraph
- You know when I saw the KDU I thought at first they were just some college eliteist group... Well this just confirms it. If you got any class at all ( promoting yourselves especially you'd take criticism politely ) No shame...Iggyboo
- killerqueen0
Son you need to realize you're at the bottom of this ladder, not the top. 3 years ago you were just learning Photoshop and begging for a "position" with the KDU.
Now what do you do? You fucking BLOG for them! Wow, way to go dude! You type stuff on newstoday and CPLUV! You are so cool!
Truth is, you're still the talentless little boy you were just a little time ago, except now your ego has grown monstrous because you get to blog for the KDU. Don't you see how silly that is?
- vague0
every single poster/flyer/collateral kdu ever produces is some disgusting poster full of squishy italic type with lots of ugly hieroglyphic type of chopped + pasted details.
- I disagree. as a designer it's fine work. But its for themselves and work that surrounds itself is insipid. in my opinion.Iggyboo
- tank020
Actually i have no problem that they create stuff.
its taste and everybody has a different one.
my personal stance is that you can compare this with those
psychedelia graphics from the seventies.
its eyecandy, its very contemperary but its not design
but it has its merits....- What is considered to be "design" is subjective, if you ask me.Jaline
- not really.
what we do is based upon craftmenship, so its subjective...tank02 - It's kind of like the argument of what is "art" though. I think a lot of it is crap, but others may like it.Jaline
- it's all about idea's. as a curator here once said: it doesn't matter if something is rated art or not, it's about ideas and context and substance.9832892398
- substance. these days designers can be artists, rockstars, dj's, directors, photographers and vice versa9832892398
- vague0
i think it's more funny how they cant stand criticism of any kind whatsoever. son just made himself look like a child, and hes supposed to represent this upstanding global... fraternity?...
- Andy_ssw0
less talk, more work.....
- son0
I have made mistakes before and approached things from the wrong angle. I understand this now. I only wanted to engage the design community and interact. I went about this the wrong way and became aggressive at times. I was a product of my environment, but luckily I was able to surround myself with people that mentor me and show me alternative paths. I am now part of a global family that is trying to only unite the planets best designers, artists and innovators to create progressive work. What you call a "hype machine" - we call gravity. Without this "hype" -
we are voiceless. We use our voice to attack important topics, such as over consumption and decaying value systems. We want to make people aware of how various industries work from the inside out... and yes, we do want to profit as a group. Nothing that we do attacks people or harms people in any way. It is illogical for you or anyone to attack something that is not directly attacking you or harming others. It seems like your ill will against me, dave or others in the group is motivated by jealousy or insecurity. I learned that I can change and that sharing a larger agenda (not pursuing only my ego's desires) bring me great joy. I hope one day you find something in your life that brings you a similar happiness and sense of purpose.
- son0
for those that have been following or may just have the wrong perception - the KDU is hardly a bunch of graphic designers. The group is made up of a wide variety of creative and professional people. the group now has a good number of lawyers, mbas, strategists, business owners, fashion designers, entertainers, athletes, industrial designers - and most recently is moving towards various political organizations and charities. you can learn more about the activities on the various company blogs.
http://thekdu.com/news
http://thekdu.com/world
http://davidgensler.com
http://nontype.com
http://suscitate.svsv.net
- killerqueen0
"We use our voice to attack important topics, such as over consumption and decaying value systems. "
Here's a decaying value system for you: Buying into the hype. You're so far in you can't even see the shit that surrounds you.
David Gensler/TheKDU put out a couple brochure-like magazines (The Royal), has a fashion-student make a not-in-production fashion line (SVSV....I'm talking all prototypes there) and leeches off the real-world work of designers and artists (As evidenced in my first post)
Seriously, they don't DO anything! It's a glorified version of DepthCore....a loose collection of designers who think slapping the same logo on their work means "fraternity" or some shit.
- backyardflow0
@son:
I do not know you and you do not know me but in your first post, in this topic of course, you have shown us what types of people create KDU.
Oh, by the way -- I do not trust the KDU ;).Peace.
- son0
it is shameful and little to attack someone's creative style. What is
to gain? what point is being made? are you upset that all the opportunities made available to the KDU are not there for you? all the press... the shows... the brands... the projects...?these things are there not only because of the groups talent base,
they exist because of deep rooted industry connections established
over many years - the KDU moves forward because its supporters trust that the projects and interaction with the members will go smoothly and respectfully.- TheKDU "moves forward" because the only overhead they have is $1 a month hosting.killerqueen
- killerqueen0
Take a look at theKDU's "Work" section of their site. Half the "Work" were posted on DepthCore first. The other half is just shit for the KDU's own little projects that barely manifest beyond the blogs and maybe a press release.
How can you count a bunch of Photoshop experiments as "work"????
- vague0
all true. youre not responding to the fact that KDU in and of itself produces nothing. it only aggregates the compiled experimental "fun" works of a loose bunch of designers all over the place.
and the comment about the fashion line is true too. ive seen one photograph of some "exclusive" rings, and a chair with designs engraved on it. is that it?
when or where has KDU connected a single designer with a large-name client? when has KDU organized a team of 10 designers for a pitch to a big brand, and won it? it really is nothing more than "collecting" all the random shit these people make and throwing the KDU logo on it. what ELSE does it ACTUALLY DO.
- son0
your site and work and attitude are such that no one of any great weight will take you serious.
and depthcore and justin maller are proud and loyal, long standing members of the KDU.
the actual client work produced in studio is mostly visible on the blog... or for clients. you are humiliating yourself saying the brands are not real. have you visited the 5000 square foot brooklyn headquarters?
have you seen the presence at market?
NO! because you are no importance to anyone, including yourself.
how about we keep doing "us" and you keep trying to figure things out on your own.
thanks.
- vague0
.... like i said, name a big client the KDU has assembled any sort of work for. your a global fraternity right? supposed to bring designers together to work on big projects? name a big project. show me something completed that the KDU actually BROUGHT to its members, rather than taking existing work and throwing a logo on it.
ill be waiting patiently.
- son0
for the kid that thinks he knows so much about our business.
the entire KDU just relaunched URB magazine with great success. rebranded the Sport and Street section of Bread and Butter, produced original work for the Untitled exhibition in Spain.
completed campaigns for Triple 5 Soul, as well as a dozen other major client projects, which if you actually worked in the industry you would realize you dont openly push out every single project the second it is done.another note to the brilliant computer kids that are now suddenly business experts... if the competition does not know where to aim or what to aim at, they cant fire upon you. As long as the members, the government, the investors and the clients are happy... we are happy. anyone outside those four groups can... well can remain "outside". The KDU is a private group for a reason. Since we are not actually "selling" YOU anything... we suggest you use some higher logic and move on.
thanks again.
one.
- by designers designers is so...
..one dimensial.
tank02 - by designers for designers is so one-dimensional, i meantank02
- you used to have a charming naivete, now you sound like an arrogant pigRandd
- yikes me?tank02
- no, sonRandd
- true, i liked him in the beginning,
very charming, very idealistic.tank02 - now...hmmm...the bellboy of the kdutank02
- Hmmm!?! NOt to be a jerk but hasnt Graphic Havok been doing Triple Five soul for years now? I mean I remeber you guys throwing an art show with them but what campaigns did you do refresh my memory?TNDAP
- by designers designers is so...
- Randd0
this are ugly thread