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- PonyBoy0
Go find me a brunette, Calles...
- Antonelli0
version6: what do common sense and religion have to do with teaching good science in schools? The reason that Darwin's synthesis is challenged and will continue to be, is because it lack's supporting evidence. This issue isn't about religion, it's about the data.
flagellum
(Oct 12 07, 11:15)and you have SOOOOO much data, right? please.
- flagellum0
I want to know the evidence. I will go where the evidence leads. So far, the evidence has led me to Intelligent Design. One cannot honestly examine the evidence and conclude otherwise, unless one has an almost pathological commitment to a materialistic philosophy.
- CALLES0
thanks pony... im off to the topless beach... is that ok... is that a sin? redhead anyone?
- Antonelli0
99% of the time, the specific master you worship is dictated by your geographical location on earth.
flag, if you were born in Iran, Jesus Christ wouldn't be your savior, you'd be praying to Allah right now and giving countless reasons as to why he's the true god and not Christ or anyone else. Doesn't that say something to you?
It's all cultural influence. Its incredibly biased and subjective.
Antonelli
(Aug 28 07, 13:14)never got a response to this one.
- gramme0
for a chance to eat a cracker you've bastardized into the body of christ.
version6
(Oct 12 07, 11:18)First of all, it is a symbol of the sacrifice, not the actual substance. Some churches believe in transubstantiation, or the magical transformation of wine into blood and bread into flesh. This is absurd, morbid, unsubstantiated, and contrary to Scripture.
v6, you have no proof that man invented God. Neither can you cannot disprove that God invented man ex nihilo. Until then, I humbly recommend you show some respect to the people who don't shop at the same atheistic market as you.
- version30
*shits on bible(s), all however many bastardized versions there are selling whatever point this sect wants to spew.
- BonSeff0
the earth is 4.5 billion years old.
7000 yrs is a drop in the bucket.
- BonSeff0
also in the last 7000 years we havent had a huge comet rain down radiation causing mutation..
c'mon man
- version30
and of course... *wipes ass with a nice rough piece of elitist onion paper
- SteveJobs0
*enters thread*
*sees a trail of dead, beaten horses and hears chaotic chatter around the corner*
*leaves thread*
*continues to enjoy day*
- gramme0
99% of the time, the specific master you worship is dictated by your geographical location on earth.
flag, if you were born in Iran, Jesus Christ wouldn't be your savior, you'd be praying to Allah right now and giving countless reasons as to why he's the true god and not Christ or anyone else. Doesn't that say something to you?
It's all cultural influence. Its incredibly biased and subjective.
Antonelli
(Aug 28 07, 13:14)never got a response to this one.
Antonelli
(Oct 12 07, 11:26)Antonelli, that is not necessarily true. There are Christians all over the world. Asia, for example, has eclipsed the west in sheer numbers of professing Christians. The largest churches in almost any denomination are actually in South Korea, of all places.
Most religions are localized, or at least highly concentrated in certain areas. If locale dictates religion, then I should be into animism and earth worship like the Eastern Plains Indians were way back before us white folks. People in Britain should be worshipping Lleu, Rhiannon, Don, etcetera. People in Norway should be worshipping Thor and Freyja.
People change and religious hotbeds migrate. Large parts of Indo-China are predominantly Muslim right now. This is utterly foreign to the east, and a relatively recent import.
Christianity did not come from the west, it came from the middle east.
We all have a bias. We all come equipped with presuppositions. We are all heavily influenced, but not necessariuly defined, by our upbringing.
All religions contradict each other in ways so fundamental as to exclude the possibility for "one God, many names and many faiths."
The God of the Bible and Allah of the Koran bear only surface-level resemblances. Both cultures hark back to Abraham and his offspring. Both religions believe there is one God. Both have developed systems of morality. Both meet on houses of worship. The similarities end there.
Yes: it is all biased and subjective, unless God invented man, vs. the other way around.
People who refuse to admit the possibility of absolute truth are incapable of seeing it all in any other way than as an incredibly subjective mess.
- flagellum0
BonSeff: I'll assume you're joking.
Antonelli: Your fallacy is in assuming that because there are concentrations of a particular belief system in certain geographic locations, that it is purely a cultural phenomenon. This is an argument from silence, ultimately. It does not in any way nullify the authenticity of the Christian message. Additionally, there are Christians all over the globe. Just as there are Muslims all over the globe.
The same line of reasoning applies to the pluralist himself. If the pluralist grew up in Madagascar or medieval France, he would not have been a pluralist!
If we are culturally conditioned regarding our religious beliefs, then why should the religious pluralist think his view is less arbitrary or conditioned than the exclusivist’s?
If Christian faith is true, then the Christian would be in a better position than the pluralist to assess the status of other religions.
- gramme0
*shits on bible(s), all however many bastardized versions there are selling whatever point this sect wants to spew.
version6
(Oct 12 07, 11:27)I feel sad for your bitterness. It doesn't seem to me that you are very happy with the set of beliefs you have chosen. I hope things improve for you.
- BonSeff0
flagellum, i assume you are delusional
- czawada0
"I feel sad for your bitterness. It doesn't seem to me that you are very happy with the set of beliefs you have chosen. I hope things improve for you.
gramme
(Oct 12 07, 11:44)"HAHAHAHAHA, man... I just spit my spicy tuna roll onto my monitor.
Please don't stop, this thread is highly entertaining.
- version30
Religious wears are the number one killer in history
oil doesn't have shit on jesus in pure killing power
- visualplane_0
Read literally only a few posts here, but just wanted to represent myself as a Christian =)
Cheers gramme
- gramme0
Why exactly is that funny, czawada? I was being completely sincere. The guy spits venom at people who have never harmed a hair on his head.
He doesn't strike me as a happy person.
- gramme0
thanks visualplane.