Outsourced!
- Started
- Last post
- 77 Responses
- moldero0
not really worried about this, until these India guys portfolios start looking better than ours anyway, then we better get into management.
- jox0
Moldero, if you're really this insecure in what you do and believes a 10 bucks an hour Indian is going to provide a better job than you - you are going to lose your clients anyway eventually.
- arseni0
if they're good, why not use them? :) let indian guys do the job, and you can just send invoices :)
if they're not good enough for you, then there's nothing to worry about it.
- TheBlueOne0
I realized a long time ago that you never really are selling what you think you're selling. You are not selling a website, or even your design skills, you are selling the relationship you create with the client. Eg. I mean really, what's the fucking difference between Pepsi and Coke...really? It's fucking water with sugar in it. What are they selling? A better sugared water? Now, they are selling a "lifestyle" an image" - seriously, that's it...same shit with 99% of the market, including what we do..the other 1% is reserved for the real artisans and singular achievments...
- KevinTx0
"not really worried about this, until these India guys portfolios start looking better than ours anyway, then we better get into management."
well...I'm fucked.
- moldero0
"Moldero, if you're really this insecure in what you do and believes a 10 bucks an hour Indian is going to provide a better job than you - you are going to lose your clients anyway eventually.
jox "insecure about this? not one bit, i just believe outsourcing is a right wing way to insure the rich keep getting richer.
- orkman0
My company has outsourced a few times and it has always come back in poor quality. Design, animation and code. There are some decent companies in India and others will catch up eventually.
In the case of advertising, I think it is very difficult to outsource messaging or copywriting to India or China.
My issue is when the client needs top quality or a strong message and upper management has asked to outsource it for $$$ margins.
It is scary to be in a production role when $8.25 is thrown out as an option. Maybe the secret is to always expand your skillset, keep ahead of the curve and be able to creatively think and push those ideas to clients.
What do I know? Maybe I'll go into garbage collecting...that can't be outsourced can it?
- moldero0
"jox"
you miss read me btw.
- acescence0
yeah, i agree with blue, a lot of the job is effective communication, and if some of my experiences with outsourced call centers is any indicator, the communication can be lacking to say the least
- jox0
Agreed.
And it's all about relationship and understanding. How are they gonna brief a client in India? I for one wouldn't want to launch a project and leave its quality in the hands of someone on the other side of the world, never having met.
So yeah.. I don't think it's gonna leave any mark in the portfolio of a designer whose clientele is kept because of quality.
But I still think the idea is good if you want to have somebody throw somethign together quickly. But that's not what we do, is it.
- CALLES0
woah... i guess im going to have to start spicying up my graphics a little more
- jox0
insecure about this? not one bit, i just believe outsourcing is a right wing way to insure the rich keep getting richer.
moldero
(Feb 16 07, 13:49)Hahah, I've been here for 6 years and that is by far the most absurd post I've ever read on NT. I'm beginning to think you're someone else logged in under that user name just to pull an eloquent joke. So somebody from a poorer nation who does work for less is the "richer" one, am I correct?
- material-10
no
- moldero0
I wish our company had a $$ back guarantee for some of the freelancers we occasionally hire.
- -sputnik-0
insecure about this? not one bit, i just believe outsourcing is a right wing way to insure the rich keep getting richer.
moldero
(Feb 16 07, 13:49)um...wow.
- CALLES0
yup... its going to be a little hard to live that one down
- -sputnik-0
i think i need a cold compress
- moldero0
"Hahah, I've been here for 6 years and that is by far the most absurd post I've ever read on NT. I'm beginning to think you're someone else logged in under that user name just to pull an eloquent joke. So somebody from a poorer nation who does work for less is the "richer" one, am I correct?"
are you serious or you just fucking with me? come on, you cant be that dumb, are you just looking at the words and not comprehending? use your head dude. read again.
- jox0
Oh god. You see, now I actually understand why your clients are floating the idea of outsourcing instead of hiring you.
- Sickman0
Enter response:outsourcing should be illegal.
moldero
(Feb 16 07, 13:35)check the label on the shoes, shirt and pants your wearing....