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- Fariska
I'm tryng to compose a web page on Illustrator. Everything is fine, but there is an option to render the text without antialias?
(pixedl preview is already active)
- PonyBoy0
Enter response:
search the pvn... talked about this maybe... 2 weeks ago? less?
- acescence0
under the effect menu, rasterize, options anti-aliasing: none
- jevad0
"I'm tryng to compose a web page on Illustrator. "
There's your problem right there
- chz0
""I'm tryng to compose a web page on Illustrator. "
There's your problem right there
jevad
(Jul 26 06, 15:58)"Yessir.
- madirish0
""I'm tryng to compose a web page on Illustrator. "
There's your problem right there
jevad
(Jul 26 06, 15:58)"Yessir.
chz
(Jul 26 06, 15:58)oh, fuck that. if i hear for a second that "Photoshop" is what is "better" i will loose it.
please...
- madirish0
i need to rephrase this.
whatever works for the designer and their environment is what they should use. period. i made a comment months and months ago that becuase someone was using something to design, that there was a 'better tool'. i then retracted that statement 100% and said whatever you use, use it awesome.
i lay out all sites in AI becuase i feel it is a superior application and offers the most versatility for porting the design(s) to any other outlet than the original, known medium of 'website'. i firmly believe that not working in a vector-based application to do this is an inferior way of working, but do not for a second try and tell another how to design the nest for them.
that is what i meant.
- monNom0
I disagree, pixel precision and the ability to tweek/mask/edit imagery/elements in context is a pretty big thing to let go of. Your horizons are so much broader in photoshop than they are in illustrator... use them together sure, but spitting out webgraphics from illustrator?
nasty.I'm pretty handy with both, and
I'll use illustrator for figuring out the layout of complex sites, or for illustration, but beyond that, all final work needs to be done in photoshop.
- monNom0
er, should have read the next post. I have to agree with this:
"whatever works for the designer "
nice work btw Madrish. I'm surprised some of it came out of Illustrator
- PonyBoy0
Enter response:
use 'em hand in hand... wireframe your specific pixels (shapes, vector graphics etc) in illy... define your layout in illy... then peice it together in photoshop too... having two working files that bounce off of each other 'so-to-speak'...
... super helpful are 'smart objects' and 'vector masks' in photoshop... but to make them with precision - create them in illy... (thus the first file will be illustrator that you work in... to define your exact pixels, corner radius' etc... then... jump to PS)
- madirish0
disagree and agree.
for ALL image manipulation, photoshop w/o question. this is what it was and is designed for, and i would never want to change that. i use both during the process but remember, the question presented was for laying out a site.
i disagree that AI limits the designer in any way and that pixel precision is not available w/ it. if you are building from coherent, ordered grid and have your document/stage setup correctly, pixels are the only thing it will align to. if not, this is somewhat sloppy.
i also miss how all final work needs to be done in pshop?
why?
what about it offers that true ability in site design not in AI? aside from manipulating imagery to fall w/in the layout.
- PonyBoy0
I'm surprised some of it came out of Illustrator
monNom
(Jul 26 06, 17:39)
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Enter response:you shouldn't be... :)
... madirish is dead-on right.
- madirish0
thanks monNom, i think we all work as hard as we can, about what we are passionate about.
i will champion vector-based apps for as long as i can. i sincerely feel pshop has been bastardized and banaid'd to accomodate masses, not 'evolved' with the times and coming from the audience.
i like critiques like this! :)
- PonyBoy0
aside from manipulating imagery to fall w/in the layout.
madirish
(Jul 26 06, 17:41)
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Enter response:layer effects etc... w/layer effects you can make your pixels super-smooth, have super-clean precise strokes (w/opacity and blending mode adjustment... even gradient fills etc)...
... more photo-realistic options and ease of adjustment in Photoshop than in Illustrator.
But irish... i totally hear what you're saying... not arguing with you!! I start and work in illy using 'effects', layers, blending modes, masks etc... sometimes stay in Illy and never leave except to adjust a 'placed' image and accept the update when I return to illy...
... illy is super-powerful... it just depends on what detail you're going after... you have more visual/pixel manipulation ability and 'stability' (imho) in PS than you do in illy.
- madirish0
good points, Pony. i hear you all the way, and see what sort of design elements are better suited to finalize in pshop. i guess some (maybe more) of this critique rests on the desired aesthetic the designer is going for. i feel a designed informational display of content is best suited to be completed in AI, but can see if the concept rests on heavy effects and/or image manipulation (rather than letting natural photography shine through) pshop is the best tool to achieve the solution.
- johndiggity0
illustrator is clearly superior because when its all said and done, you can export everything out to a layered psd.
- jaylarson0
i have never designed web sites in either ps or illy. do you design them their for the clients only? or are you able to then export them as a web page? my designs are pretty bland as i just stick with pad and pen then bring it into dw.
how do y'all work?
- monNom0
I know you CAN get decent quality out of AI, but the independence of resolution seems like a drawback to me, more than a bonus (especially for those just starting out). From some of the 3rd party artwork I've had to deal with that was designed in illustrator, it's obvious you need to know the technical ins-and-outs to get a quality product, because DTP style doesn't cut it.
Cleaning up the output (of a poor quality file) ends up taking near as long as rebuilding in photoshop.
I guess what it comes down to is I advocate people learning to build in photoshop, as it will get you thinking in pixels. once you know it, do whatever works for you.
- PonyBoy0
once you know it, do whatever works for you.
monNom
(Jul 26 06, 18:13)Enter response:
that statement needs sparkly golden-white dancing glitter all over it
- mynx0
Thought this might be a suitable thread to stitch this question to... How do I draw a pixel perfect dotted line in illustrator? - One pixel thick then a dot for every 3 pixels along.
- Fariska0
Anyway, problem solved :)
Thanks peep.Here's the result
http://www.magmaedia.com/clienti…-"Proposta scura" is 100% PS
-"Proposta chiara" 100% IllyNext time i have to try a mixed approach. b/c i feel more confortable with PS for some functions /effects (layer styles i.e) and with illy for other things.