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- kelpie0
God is omnipotent, therefore God created coffee, therefore God has a place in EVERY thread. silly.
- flagellum0
I disagree. In creating free will, he creates beings with the propensity to commit evil, otherwise it wouldn't truly be free will. He is not directly creating the evil. If he intervened and prevented all evil, he would have to violate the free will. He permits it.
- Mimio0
Similarities is just an innaccurate description. Look at the Rutgers link I added a few posts up. Matthew, Mark, and Luke borrow from each other almost verbatim in many places. The structures are nearly identical as well. Now ask youself...why would they do that?
- Mimio0
Does creating freewill mean that people have the ability to do something unexpected by the creator as well? If he exist beyond time, and is all knowing he would have knowledge of every outcome. Therefore upon creating a person he/it would be the initiator of their own fate, good or bad. So the sadistic idea that God creates people knwoing that he'll be sending them to hell is not only that God's reality, but also his intent
- flagellum0
Mimio:
Synoptics-
"why are their Gospels so similar? There are several possible explanations. It is possible that whichever Gospel was written first (likely Mark) – the other Gospel writers had access to it. There is absolutely no problem with the idea that Matthew and/or Luke copied some text from Mark’s Gospel and used it in their Gospels. Perhaps Luke had access to Mark and Matthew and used texts from both of them in his own Gospel. Luke 1:1-4 tells us, “Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.”
Another explanation is simply that the Synoptic Gospels are so similar because they are all inspired by the same Holy Spirit, and are all written by people who witnessed, or were told about, the same events. The Gospel of Matthew was written by Matthew the Apostle, one of the twelve who followed Jesus and were commissioned by Him. The Gospel of Mark was written by John Mark, a close associate of the Apostle Peter, another one of the twelve. The Gospel of Luke was written by Luke, a close associate of the Apostle Paul, who was taught by the other Apostles about the Lord’s life and ministry. Why would we not expect their accounts to be very similar to one another? Each of the Gospels was ultimately inspired by the Holy Spirit (2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:20-21). Therefore, we should expect similarity and unity."
- pavlovs_dog0
whay does jesus give babies cancer flagellum?
please pray for an end to the jesus cancer babies, they only have the will to soil themselves...
- flagellum0
As for the Free Will vs. God's Goodness issue. We have to delineate between foreknowledge and foreordination. It's important to not conflate the two. Can can know our decisions and their outcome, but this does not violate our free moral agency.
- flagellum0
Jesus doesn't give babies cancer, pavlov.
Humans did, by opting for a fallen sin ravaged world.
- Nairn0
Jesus doesn't give babies cancer, pavlov.
Humans did, by opting for a fallen sin ravaged world.
flagellum
(Apr 28 06, 09:14)Oh boy, to live in Black and White.
- kelpie0
oh crikey, thats fucked up.
- brooke0
Love the smell of coffee, hate the taste.
- kelpie0
you know my uncle is a minister up north, a very religious man and quite high up in the church. He's also a really cool guy, who's open-mindedness (word?) and inclusivity always makes me really proud to be related to him, he's the kind of guy who always goes out of his way to help people (no matter who they are, what they've been up to or who they believe in). I reckon he'd happily slap flaggelum for that one, and I also reckon he's a lot more fun at parties btw. what a dickhead.
- Mimio0
Discipler, that distiction is meaningless in this argument though. It's like saying I didn't push you in front of the bus to be hit and killed, I nearly watched you get hit with full ability to save you from the bus I created to hit you.
- pavlovs_dog0
Respond Discipler, that distiction is meaningless in this argument though. It's like saying I didn't push you in front of the bus to be hit and killed, I nearly watched you get hit with full ability to save you from the bus I created to hit you.
Mimio
(Apr 28 06, 09:23)interesting...
jews and muslims dont go for this o.g. sin stuff, thy're just like god will fuck you up.
...i think i kinda respect the honesty of that.
- twoismtwoism0
How can you not like coffee Jaline+brooke? you guys are tea drinkers? i like tea aswell infact i liked tea more then coffee when i was growing up but then people around me always would ask you want coffee so id say yes got addicted. If you live in Canada you have to like coffee its what people do drive to Tims to pick up a coffee when driving somewhere. Iced caps are good for the summer. mmm
- flagellum0
Mimio, that's a horribly limited analogy. It doesn't work. We are talking about a limitless creator who, in perfect justice, gave us free will. We are offered reconciliation as a free gift. When somebody goes into eternity seperated from God, they do so of their own volition. God's goodness is not comprimised because he knows who will be seperated from him. If I may hoist you on your own petard for a moment, God indeed does reach out and save us before we are hit by a bus. He does this thru Christ's sacrifice at Calvary.
- Point50
what happened to the coffee?
- Mimio0
It hanged itself from a redbud tree.
- mstrobert0
with flagellum's identity revealed:
http://video.google.com/videopla…
i think its time for an aftenoon cup ... i'll take mine BLACK (is that dark sided?)
- flagellum0
Yes, mstrobert... all Christians are raving maniacal freak shows like that video clip. Nice caricature.
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