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- pablo28-3
- https://youtu.be/ytw…robotron3k
- So a fighter lost. Never heard that before.pango
- PonyBoy-7
The Nature of Sex
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2…
"It might be a sign of the end-times, or simply a function of our currently scrambled politics, but earlier this week, four feminist activists — three from a self-described radical feminist organization Women’s Liberation Front — appeared on a panel at the Heritage Foundation. Together they argued that sex was fundamentally biological, and not socially constructed, and that there is a difference between women and trans women that needs to be respected."
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- those stories at 9:00 are heartbreaking._niko
- mental health sprinkled with an addiction to social media and the collapse of the family unit and PC culture run amok = perfect breeding ground for this lunacy_niko
- I also think that it's all part of the continued but covert cold war being perpetrated by Russia to weaken the west and move in for the kill._niko
- They're deeply ingrained in Wall street, influence politics if not outright control it, were heavily behind BLM and racial discord, and now gender politics in_niko
- ..an attempt to encourage the feminization or de-masculinization of the west. But that's just me and my foil hat talking lol_niko
- ok, so I thought I was talking out of my ass but maybe there's something to my ramblings https://medium.com/@…_niko
- https://slate.com/te…_niko
- https://medium.com/@…_niko
- the West basically moved the entirety of personal and political discourse (even politicians, state orgs + the press) into a few unsecured chat roomsFax_Benson
- and didn't worry about what might happen. What wasn't made publicly available was leaked.Fax_Benson
- Julia Beck @ 35:00+ put me in tears... 'unbelievable... absurd... as it is commonplace'... then 'guilty of violence' for using the wrong pronoun... amazing. :(PonyBoy
- @niko. It's not de-masculinity. It's de toxic masculinity. Basically just saying dont be a dick when you are just trying your best to be a man.pango
- tangoxray38
I love feminists!
- tangoxray320
Men that are threatened by feminists are the weakest men
- BINGO!oey
- So true.monospaced
- tough guys are fragile. Leave them alone!!pango
- It's easy to confuse men who are "threatened" by feminists with men who just don't agree with them.cannonball1978
- feminism=cancerpablo28
- ^ WTF?!oey
- feminism=Cancer
capitalism=Cancer
patriotism=Cancer
socialism=Cancerpango - man...this is not even funny. makes me really sad to spend time here and share stuff with people and then read stuff like this...oey
- what would you not be agreeing with?monospaced
- feminism=cancer WTF mono?!oey
- /\ you got triggeredMilan
- yup!
took a photo of someone who had something like this on a sign made @ the womens march in NYC.notype - whoah these notes are intense. chill...notype
- to fight for freedom of speech, is to fight for freedom of speech of the person whose opinion is the opposite of yoursdrgs
- lol I wasn’t even referring to you oey!monospaced
- https://pbs.twimg.co…Gnash
- Really, this is where we are at.. no wonder this place is going to the dogs. oey, please stay.. but I also understand if u need to leaveautoflavour
- Gnash3
- wtf?! one thing has not directly or necesserily to do with the otheroey
- yes. he is definitely the authority of said subject. lets give him more attention.pango
- I'm not sure that once is enoughGnash
- Hehe, tommy, tommy... You're supercool tio!OBBTKN
- Okay... How does that make a man understand women exactly?cannonball1978
- robo can get behind this.utopian
- Marc Jacobs understands
http://www.x17online…ok_not_ok - Maybe he should cut his cock off and then fuck the hole with his dismembered cock, you know just so he understands women betterset
- Women don't get penetrated, what a fucked up thing to say.helloeatbreathedrive
- LOL @ setoey
- "In a 2004 interview with GQ, the award-winning American designer said "every man should be f**ked at some point in his life."fadein11
- it's called the amazon positionsee_bee
- notype0
I see this at least once a day here in NYC.
Feminism means so many different things to different groups. Is there a common language to what it means to be a feminist?
Anywhoo I think it's great.
- chukkaphob2
- Im expecting to see this any day now in the locker room of my gymrobotron3k
- that’s because you’re an idiotmonospaced
- Gardener4
- kind of lewd.sarahfailin
- Why is god making women fatter?robotron3k
- Is that question or whatset
- She loves a bit of Gin around lunchtime then Prosecco in the afternoon. The evening brings Bourbon and Nitrous. So yeh, pretty fucked most days.Morning_star
- I heard she's got a right manky fannyset
- You heard right. Gone 10:30 she'll let anyone with a handful of small change have have a go on her. Riddled with clap.
Sad, such a promising deity.Morning_star
- sofas-1
The conspiracy theories[1] regarding hindering R&D / production of alternative birth controls for men besides the condom can also be made against the "matriarchy", claiming that would give men more control over their reproductive rights and bring change to the legal system that doesn't accommodate "paper abortions"[2] thereby forcing men to pay child support for unwanted pregnancies.
The lack of paper abortions also makes sex scary to a point that if she says she's using birth control but you don't trust her enough, you wear a condom (partially ruining the experience and portraying mistrust), or go back to tradition and only sleep with someone you are ready to a have a family with.
[1] I don't know if the theories are real, they are usually made in a general manner with no backing evidence.
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pa…- Birth control doesn't stop HIV or any of the other shit condoms stop.i_monk
- Rubbing genitals together is overrated anyway. Far more interesting things to pursue in life.shapesalad
- sofas0
- lol.Gnash
- We need more funding to understand dog patriarchyGnash
- for sure :)sofas
- What the fuck is a 'rape-condoning space'.
Inanimate objects have opinions now do they. Fucking retarded.Morning_star
- sofas-1
"Men Sentenced To Longer Prison Terms Than Women For Same Crimes, Study Says"
- the length of sentences it inversely proportional to ones place on the totem pole of oppressionGnash
- Gynosympathy is the well-documented, yet poorly examined, tendency in human being to sympathize with females more than males, leading to the preferentialrobotron3k
- protection and appeasement of women.robotron3k
- aka, Gynocentrismrobotron3k
- this was covered in the documentary Red Pillmugwart
- Women are also less likely to commit he crimes and also less likely to commit them after being punished. It’s not complicated unless you hate women.monospaced
- good point mono, but it could also be made against the punishment gap, maybe men have higher recidivism also due to tougher punishments?sofas
- Gnash1
https://twitter.com/RobSchneider…
"I, Rob Schneider, will no longer take projects that do not pay women equally."
- i_monk0
Ask Your Baby's Permission Before Changing Diaper, Says Sexual Consent Expert
- Feminist and Butt of the day threads are neck and neck...robotron3k
- to be honest it's piss poor clickbait disguised as journalism with people on both sides of the 'left/right' argument outdoing themselves in the stupidity stakesBluejam
- comments on that page are funny as fuckBluejam
- notype5
- you're welcome?hotroddy
- Except women don't pick STEM careers, they prefer non-profit and elementary school teacher roles, low stress jobs with tons of free time off.robotron3k
- Look love, that would have better sense if you hadn’t switched from third to first person halfway through. You’re smart, you should have known that.MrT
- ^ she didn't? Not that I don't doubt she's a thick cunt, but she didn't switch from third to first person ...?set
- She switched from Plural to Singular.robthelad
- She didn't switch from plural to singular.
@set: I guess MrT is referring to the use of they in the first sentence and you in the second one.soundofreason - I don't see that as a switch though.
http://i.imgur.com/d…soundofreason - OK but the first sentence speaks to everyone, but the last two, just to men.MrT
- And thanks. You are the soundofreason.MrT
- Explaining grammar and sentence structure.face_melter
- mansplaining grammar.Gnash
- :-)
You have to see her "I am smarter than you" as a side note. She looks to the side, holds up a hand with her palm outwards and bobs her head.soundofreason - I’m now convinced the only women robo has ever met are his mother and sister, both of whom he resents on a repiltilian level. That or he’s a real asshole.monospaced
- I think / hope robo is being tongue in cheek? Sarcastic? ...but on QBN, I've no idea.notype
- He’s not unfortunately. It’s pathetic and disturbing at the very least.monospaced
- Gnash, case in point & set seems to know a lot about her.notype
- ... and how on earth did you come to that conclusion, skippy?set
- lolnotype
- My gf speaks to me like this too. I think she thinks she's smarter than me.docpoz
- her twitter's kind of amusing to flip through:
https://twitter.com/…detritus
- sofas-2
Rise of the bromance is bad for women, could become ‘genuine lifestyle relationship’: study
- I love how it somehow has something to do with whether it affects women. Fucking idiocy.cannonball1978
- Gnash-2
Dearest fadein, the point is simple really, and you'd see it if your biases weren't so firmly crocheted within the taffeta folds of your virtuous self image.
Uber is not just a “taxi” company, as you so dismissively labelled them. they are a hugely successful example of a completely gender-blind labour ecosystem.
By using millions of data points the study found that a 7% pay gap between men and women persisted even within that gender-blind market.
Coincidently, this 7% is almost identical to the general labour market gender pay gap of 8% that is currently argued as being based solely on discrimination, and not on the bizarrely controversial idea that men and women are different and consequently, make different choices.
This study simply offers quite solid evidence contradicting the currently preferred opinion — specifically because of its unique ability to offer truly gender-blind data.
I truly hope, for your sake, that this isn’t a “mind-blowing post” — it’s quite a simple concept really and I feel a little silly having to break it down for you.
- Does this study put the nail in the coffin of that argument? no, but it sheds a lot of light on the discussion.Gnash
- but clearly a light not bright enough to illuminate the dark corners of some peoples preconceptionsGnash
- This study is about a taxi company. See below "2 million Uber drivers". It is also about a freelance sector where the amount of work is defined byfadein11
- the individual worker, not a salary defined by the employer. Obviously the hourly rate is but the amount of time drivers work is down to them.fadein11
- E.g. the recent BBC pay scandal had nothing to do with choices made by the individual but about the worth defined to them by their employer.fadein11
- Perhaps I am missing something but this doesn't relate to broader pay discrimination at all.fadein11
- It looks like an example of someone using a study that is v.specific to make borader assumptions about an issue.fadein11
- ugh. whizbangGnash
- I knew there was no point in trying to explain. live and learnGnash
- sorry? explain what?fadein11
- look at my original comment pal, the article was obvious. wasn't sure why it was worth posting and why you felt the need to, what did it say to you?fadein11
- Still sidestepping my original question, did it help enforce your views? or was it just a joke post from your online "persona" as set suggested?fadein11
- If you won't be embarrassed for yourself, I'll do it for you.set
- We both embarrass ourselves daily here, isn't that part of the fun. It's all part of our online "personas" :)fadein11
- Gnash may have won this battle but he will not win the war! lol. Stay positive always xfadein11
- gender pay gap in the gig economy or shall we say narrowed down example of the gig economy AKA uber drivers. hmmm. this has put the issue to bed for sure :)fadein11
- Uber "hugely successful"? - they have only just started making a meagre profit in the US and are still losing billions globally. Sorry had to correct you there.fadein11
- To say uber isn't successful is madness. It's a 70 billion dollar brand and is still growing... Come on fadeset
- Massively over valued brand and still losing money hand over fist. And rocked by endless scandals. If the definition of success is unrealistic valuations thenfadein11
- maybe.
https://gizmodo.com/…fadein11 - You're simply clutching to small and irrelevant points in order to still be 'right' after massively embarrassing yourself. Just stop.set
- responding to your false statement. And my original point and question still totally stands. This study applies to a tiny proportion of the labour economy sofadein11
- therefore doesn't tell us a lot aside from where discrimination is removed men and women are different. Lol. Come on, this isn't breaking news.fadein11
- You commented again and I responded. Why don't you "Just stop"fadein11
- And only applies to a tiny part of the 'gig' economy. I don't think I have missed the point, there just isn't one worth debating.fadein11
- Embarrassed myself lolfadein11
- Still doing itset
- Valuation and profitability are not the same thing, just FYIcannonball1978
- monospaced7
Damn sofas. You sure love to post in this thread. What’s the motivation?
- I imagine for the same reason people post in any thread -- interest in the topic.Gnash
- You also post a ton. You seem quite interested in feminism indeed. ;)monospaced
- identify politics in all it's various flavoursGnash
- it's amusing to watch ideologues consume themselvesGnash
- Yes, it seems that you post primarily to shed feminists and feminism in a bad light.monospaced
- I read it as someone that is just questioning what we are being forced to consume and think. Sofa doesnt seem to be hating women.mugwart
- only the toxic ideologues, mono. there are plenty of brilliant thinkers that have been labeled feminists. they're just not funny the way many in this thread areGnash
- shine a light on an idea and sometimes those ideas turn out to be bad -- it's not the light that makes it so.Gnash
- mono I ask myself the same :) not sure, many reasons. I think it stems from personal frustration with women but also from watching external problems.sofas
- sometimes I feel like I might be slipping into hating women or recognizing existing hate inside me, but even if that is the case, I try to backup my claims.sofas
- I don't rule out conspiracies. I wouldn't be surprised if feminism is corporate driven to increase slave-on-slave violence. I think there is systematicsofas
- discrimination of all sexes, but that the current discourse doesn't address it or doesn't address it properly. I'm not an expert in any field, but feel wesofas
- should go to the source, check facts, see where freedom of speech is curtailed, investigate power structures, follow the money, introspect etc.sofas
- also what Gnash said :)sofas
- i hate men and women equallydrgs
- You can hate a movement but not the people/gender. We have to look were movements are leading.mugwart
- as to 'tin foils' it is known that the CIA moved into the hippy moment to de-rail it and manipulate it. So frankly no one knows what is genuine or not.mugwart
- there are terrible examples in any movement obviously. gnash and sofas just love focussing on them for some reason. not sure what they suggest as an alternativefadein11
- wipe out decades of progress? It's basically just conservatism not that either would ever admit that.fadein11
- for me, as a victim there is as much of a bias agasint men as women. I know how it sounds. I'm pro 'person' not group but for me its how it looks back onmugwart
- history and the direction of all these movements is very extreme left wing. I too often wonder if this is manipulated.mugwart
- I don't care how I get labeled and I wrote my suggestions already in the notes of this post. Also, I don't think that all is better for women and men currently.sofas
- For example, many women used to be able to choose if they wanted to stay at home or work, nowaday less women can do so.sofas
- actually, yes maybe in some ways i'm conservative, in some ways liberal / progressive, or nazi or anarchist or whatever. each dogma has pros and cons andsofas
- i'm not homogenous or consistent in my views..sofas
- good on you. I just find it a real waste of time focussing on really bad examples of mainly v.positive things.fadein11
- there already is a thoughtful alternative, fadein. no need to suggest an alternative. the identity banshees only serve to pollute the narrative.Gnash
- it's important call out the lazy thinkers. there's no discourse otherwise. your 'waste of time' is actually how societies solve problems.Gnash
- it's the lazy acceptance of group-think like yours that halt discourse.Gnash
- Respect your honest.mugwart
- what problems? that a feminist wrote a shitty paper? there are terrible examples of everything and they really shouldn't be used to derail predominantlyfadein11
- positive things.fadein11
- imhofadein11
- Obsession with this topic sheds a certain light on the person obsessed with it IMO.yuekit
- Maybe you experienced something in your personal life. But it seems like it's coming from a place of resentment (for people who can't stop talking about it).yuekit
- what yuekit saidmonospaced
- yes yuekit, you were also the voice of reason v.early on in the political correctness thread.fadein11
- i_monk-1
This Photo Exhibit Shows Why Climate Change Is a Women's Rights Issue
- Bluejam5
- so much anger and stupid in one video
fucking hellBluejam - an idiot firework exploding on both ends spiralling off into pointless negativity and division.fadein11
- didn't really need his redundant commentary. the video speaks for itself.Gnash
- @fadein11 +100jagara
- Yeah. Divisive. Counterproductive. But seriously, let them.jagara
- http://www.ameliasau…detritus
- flol, this also came up in search results for the above..
https://pics.me.me/t…detritus - good vid.notype
- so much anger and stupid in one video
- Gnash-1
New research on nearly 2 million Uber drivers finds a gender earnings gap of 7% even in the complete absence of gender discrimination
https://web.stanford.edu/~diamon…
The uniqueness of our data—knowing exactly the production and compensation functions—permits us to completely unpack the underlying determinants of the gender earnings gap.
We find that the entire gender gap is caused by three factors:
a) experience on the platform (learning-by-doing),
b) preferences over where/when to work, and
c) preferences for driving speed.This suggests that, as the gig economy grows and brings more flexibility in employment, women’s relatively high opportunity cost of non-paid-work time and gender-based preference differences can perpetuate a gender earnings gap even in the absence of discrimination.
- TL;DR: pay gap has nothing to do with gender discrimination and everything to do with gender differences in work preferences and experienceGnash
- 7%-? ok.
It would be a statistical miracle if there was a 0% difference....set - ^ not if we are all the sameGnash
- but we're not, and never will be, and anyone who says otherwise is a moronset
- ay, there's the rubGnash
- so gender pay gap is not based on discrimination in the taxi sector. wow, mind blown.fadein11
- https://media.giphy.…fadein11
- ah, the whingey mewlings of one who misses the point. blessGnash
- ... againGnash
- Oh I got the point, just not sure why you are making it (again).fadein11
- Please explain the point of the post if I have missed it, I am only going on what you cut and pasted? Really, please explain. Educate mefadein11
- and that was non-sarcastic, genuinely want to know what you have gleaned from this, please.fadein11
- lol Gnash is your new me, isn't he, fade? Gnash and I seem to agree on a lot, so no surprise I guess. Fade, you always call me a troll but you love the conflictset
- Love itset
- I have never called you a troll, ever. An arrogant cunt a lot of the time but "it's all a persona" as you say. Yes I do challenge gnash on his views, he seemsfadein11
- that's what you always say "oh i got the point..." - dumbing it down further doesn't seem to make a diff in the end.Gnash
- fixated with certain issues. I am genuinely interested in what he has to say, it's clearly something he is passionate about. This just seemed v.obvious to me.fadein11
- This place has challenged me many times over the past few years, questioned a lot of what I took for granted recently. So please don't call me a troll. I wantfadein11
- to learn.fadein11
- read the study or retreat back to your comfort zone. up to you.Gnash
- and let's not dredge up old past, I like you when you are not bandstanding.fadein11
- no you give me your black and white TL/DR assumption of an issue based on one study of one sector of work, or alternatively enlighten me with some detail pleasefadein11
- (that TL:DR is a direct quote from one of the women scientists who did the study)Gnash
- lol... You've called me a troll on many an occasion, you nutterset
- Okay - so that was just referring to Uber? Obviously. Always use quotes to clarify. So what have you gleaned about uber and the taxi sector? That discriminationfadein11
- I see you poking and prodding Gnash on a fairly consistent basis. Very similarly to how you did to me. If that's not trolling, I don't know what is...set
- on pay does not exist? Please explain. What was the point you were making by posting? A finding on Uber or a more general point?fadein11
- I disagreew ith gnash often yes, Set, jesus is this a place where we all agree now? That's not trolling. I will always question what I consider dubiousfadein11
- attitudes yep. What the fuck are on about, trolling?fadein11
- You are causing issues agin with me here. You are the most antagonistic man on QBN. I have watched at least major embarrassing arguments you have had withfadein11
- people in the last 2 weeks. It was quite refreshing to see it wasn't just me after I backed off for a good while.fadein11
- He's not trolling, he's asking a question and Gnash is getting uppity. Then you joined in. Now I've joined in.Fax_Benson
- Anyway, back off, so I can read gnash's is reply uninterrupted.fadein11
- Soon robo will arrive with a non-sequitur about SwedenFax_Benson
- Your manner of communication is incredibly argumentative. it's bait. And I just find it rather humorous watching you do it to others.set
- at least 3*fadein11
- Especially when you always projected it on to me, and that you were doing the planet justice by responding to me :'Dset
- "Your manner of communication is incredibly argumentative" Set, 2018
Gotta be a meme in this. Are you for fucking real lol?fadein11 - I'd say Gnash is one of the most reasonable, rational, intelligent and eloquent members here. No wonder you're at odds with him constantly. =Pset
- no you acted like a cunt every day and I picked you up on it, like others do here. you are projecting your own "persona" onto me here.fadein11
- You do realise that by mean saying that your manner of communication is argumentative, that doesn't mean I'm saying mine isn't... ?set
- This place was never a bed of roses and nor should it be. But to be called a troll for taking a dislike to certain views/people is ridiculous. you sound like afadein11
- big wet snowflake.fadein11
- You are capable of computing this, yes?set
- gnash is clearly intelligent but that doesn't mean you have to agree with him you fucking idiot.fadein11
- anyway, back to business. whats gnahs got to say on his mindblowing uber pay gap post?fadein11
- You pounce on Gnash every opportunity you get. It's humourous. And obviously hits a nerve because you're so damn defensive about it, haha.set
- "gnash is clearly intelligent but that doesn't mean you have to agree with him you fucking idiot." Um? lol, only an idiot would make this bizarre logic.set
- I never suggested anything of the sort...set
- not rdefensive really, but it obviously bothers you lol. I was talking to him not you. Is he old enough to speak for himself you prize pratt.fadein11
- I already said, it amuses me...set
- I'm not speaking for Gnash, I'm telling you, from me, that you're funny.set
- still waiting for an answer to my original post. you said I prod gnash, yes thats because i often find his posts odd. so I dont agree with him. No idiocy therefadein11
- I never claim not to be argumentative. What's funny is you always shout that label at me, yet you're incredibly argumentative in your style, yourself. A prodderset
- comment*fadein11
- The difference is, I'm not blissfully and self aggrandising ignorant to it :)set
- clearly nothing to glean from it anyway as I suspected. No gender pay discrimination in the taxi sector. WOW.fadein11
- *lyset
- eh? but I am not talking about that, you have digressed, I just want to understand the point in why gnash found this interesting/posted it.fadein11
- article*fadein11
- Yea but I'm talking about thatset
- He tends to focus on a v.small part of a big issue, usually focussing on the outer limit ridiculous examples of it to make a point on the broader subject. Whichfadein11
- I find absurd. But I still would like to know what the point was here? Educate me guys, make my "small brain" bigger.fadein11
- It's quite clear to me he's just having fun with it. Why do you take it upon yourself to save planet earth by pointing out his humour as something unacceptable?set
- It's also pretty fucking obvious that his point was that we're not all the same, and never will be.... and that's ok.set
- What's your point, exactly?set
- oh it's humour, has he got an online "persona" like you lol. A bit sad really. And please don't think any of this shit bothers me once I have left the computer.fadein11
- lol, I don't know why you have to get so petty and personal.set
- I would advise him to not give up the dayjob if he found this post amusing.fadein11
- Typing shit on the internet that amuses you is far sadder than saving planet earth by being Captain SJW and correcting all the wrong doers.... ? heheset
- HOW DARE SOMEONE BE AMUSED BY THIS! THIS. IS. NOT. RIGHT! CAPTAIN FADEIN TO THE RESCUEset
- I am not trying to do that lol. how would typing shit on QBN save anything. If anything he is doing that in his own way by posting his endless anti feministfadein11
- drivel. I am just quite bored by it. Saving the planet lol. You are like a meme factory today.fadein11
- When did I get personal? How could my "small brain" as you put it so often possibly manage to get personal lol.fadein11
- Still waiting for the point I missed in this mindblowing post.fadein11
- lol I wish you made sense, we could actually have a proper conversation.set
- And this is why no one will want to meet us in real life.detritus
- lol detfadein11
- ironically it would all be fine in real life, I am v.easy to get along with.fadein11
- I arranged and attended more qbn london drinks years ago than anyone else, I reckon. We had lots of fun. I'm sure we'd all get on over a beer. Really...set
- Might get a bit tedious having to constantly explain things to fadein, but other than that I'm sure you'd all be lovely, you big loveliesset
- I half expected to get lynched at the first qbn drinksset
- lolGnash
- Hi :-) Did you manage to work out the point to this piece Fade? Should I keep my Uber app in solidarity to men, their work ethic, speed and enthusiasmIanbolton
- Lol, do it! Go men!fadein11
- This has nothing to do with solidarity for men, you strange, easily offended oddballs. It's just an interesting data point.set
- He was joking Set. And so was I. Fascinating data about how men and women approach taxi driving. Mind blowing :)fadein11
- You literally sound mentally illset
- literally lolfadein11
