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  • monospaced7

    Damn sofas. You sure love to post in this thread. What’s the motivation?

    • I imagine for the same reason people post in any thread -- interest in the topic.Gnash
    • You also post a ton. You seem quite interested in feminism indeed. ;)monospaced
    • identify politics in all it's various flavoursGnash
    • it's amusing to watch ideologues consume themselvesGnash
    • Yes, it seems that you post primarily to shed feminists and feminism in a bad light.monospaced
    • I read it as someone that is just questioning what we are being forced to consume and think. Sofa doesnt seem to be hating women.mugwart
    • only the toxic ideologues, mono. there are plenty of brilliant thinkers that have been labeled feminists. they're just not funny the way many in this thread areGnash
    • shine a light on an idea and sometimes those ideas turn out to be bad -- it's not the light that makes it so.Gnash
    • mono I ask myself the same :) not sure, many reasons. I think it stems from personal frustration with women but also from watching external problems.sofas
    • sometimes I feel like I might be slipping into hating women or recognizing existing hate inside me, but even if that is the case, I try to backup my claims.sofas
    • I don't rule out conspiracies. I wouldn't be surprised if feminism is corporate driven to increase slave-on-slave violence. I think there is systematicsofas
    • discrimination of all sexes, but that the current discourse doesn't address it or doesn't address it properly. I'm not an expert in any field, but feel wesofas
    • should go to the source, check facts, see where freedom of speech is curtailed, investigate power structures, follow the money, introspect etc.sofas
    • also what Gnash said :)sofas
    • i hate men and women equallydrgs
    • You can hate a movement but not the people/gender. We have to look were movements are leading.mugwart
    • as to 'tin foils' it is known that the CIA moved into the hippy moment to de-rail it and manipulate it. So frankly no one knows what is genuine or not.mugwart
    • there are terrible examples in any movement obviously. gnash and sofas just love focussing on them for some reason. not sure what they suggest as an alternativefadein11
    • wipe out decades of progress? It's basically just conservatism not that either would ever admit that.fadein11
    • for me, as a victim there is as much of a bias agasint men as women. I know how it sounds. I'm pro 'person' not group but for me its how it looks back onmugwart
    • history and the direction of all these movements is very extreme left wing. I too often wonder if this is manipulated.mugwart
    • I don't care how I get labeled and I wrote my suggestions already in the notes of this post. Also, I don't think that all is better for women and men currently.sofas
    • For example, many women used to be able to choose if they wanted to stay at home or work, nowaday less women can do so.sofas
    • actually, yes maybe in some ways i'm conservative, in some ways liberal / progressive, or nazi or anarchist or whatever. each dogma has pros and cons andsofas
    • i'm not homogenous or consistent in my views..sofas
    • good on you. I just find it a real waste of time focussing on really bad examples of mainly v.positive things.fadein11
    • there already is a thoughtful alternative, fadein. no need to suggest an alternative. the identity banshees only serve to pollute the narrative.Gnash
    • it's important call out the lazy thinkers. there's no discourse otherwise. your 'waste of time' is actually how societies solve problems.Gnash
    • it's the lazy acceptance of group-think like yours that halt discourse.Gnash
    • Respect your honest.mugwart
    • what problems? that a feminist wrote a shitty paper? there are terrible examples of everything and they really shouldn't be used to derail predominantlyfadein11
    • positive things.fadein11
    • imhofadein11
    • Obsession with this topic sheds a certain light on the person obsessed with it IMO.yuekit
    • Maybe you experienced something in your personal life. But it seems like it's coming from a place of resentment (for people who can't stop talking about it).yuekit
    • what yuekit saidmonospaced
    • yes yuekit, you were also the voice of reason v.early on in the political correctness thread.fadein11

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