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- pavlovs_dog0
apologetics = xtian apologist
flaggelator came to the conculsion before the question (jesus) was as askeed.
it doesn't matter what evidence you have, the bible can't ever be wrong, because that's the absolute he started with.
evolution is insignificat...
this thread could be about geology, islam, or slavery... the result would be the same.
we've give him lots of mouthwash and he's still got shit on his breath....
give it a rest.
- mrdobolina0
Im just kidding btw, you can believe all you want.
Just keep it out the public schools.
- mrdobolina0
I bet you have a compound packed with guns and inbred children.
- flagellum0
hardly, balboa. I'm actually citing facts rather than just saying "it's all just religious... yada yada..."
- balboa0
p.s. Rand trumps us all.
God is thread.
There is no thread.?
- flagellum0
When you broach the subject of dysteleology or "bad" design, you enter the realm of placing unwarranted assumptions about the designer and how he/it should design. And you also cross over into theology - the character of the designer and destiny of biological systems. So, theologically, there are bad things in the world because it's a fallen creation. We feel the bite of sin. The death rate is one for one, we're all going to make it. ;)
Scientifically, the thermodynamic second law predicts this as it states that systems break down and deteriorate, the universe is running out of useful energy. Bad things happen, biologically. Additionally, every engineer allows for checks and balances in systems. If there weren't extinction, there would be overpopulation. If there weren't physical limitations, the predator/prey relationship would be comprimised and the prey would go extinct causing the predator to go extinct, etc...
- xenicon0
it does have something to do with this. Why should any living thing, selfish gene or not, as a species disappear? It is happening all the time because of an inability to adapt to the assorted enviromental pressures which are immediate even catastrophic whereas adaption is incremental.
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- balboa0
You're just disagreeing with me for the sake of disagreeing.
flagellum(Jan 6 06, 13:00)
Pot calling the kettle irreducible?
- Rand0
sorry, wrong thread
- Anarchitect0
"It's the fact that people are applying long overdue scrutiny to Darwinism that it's coming up short."
obscure blogs and interest groups
!=
scrutiny
- JazX0
Sure, the Great Flood of Noah for one.
- Mimio0
...or parasitism, predator/prey food chains, to think those relationships were intentionally engineered is sadistic.
- xenicon0
extinction supports creationism?
oxymoron
- JazX0
many massive extinctions or a great extinction, really has nothing to do with this and in fact would suggest that Uniformitarianism isn't correct and Catastrophism ruled the planet, which in turn supports Creationist thought.
- flagellum0
it's the fact that people are applying long overdue scrutiny to Darwinism that it's coming up short. That's what this whole issue is about. Quite the opposite, mimio. If one actually takes the time to study the claims of ID, rather than regurgitate political rhetoric based in emotion, one will inevitably question and doubt NeoDarwinism.
- xenicon0
what about extinction? Kind of suggests a perverse perfectibility.
Magic. yup. Now you seen em, now you don't.
- Mimio0
// It's easy to buy into ID if you just don't apply the same scrutiny that would to evoltuion.
- xenicon0
mandelbrot set as argument?
- mrdobolina0
but that is not what ID is trying to say, mimio. ;)
the next logical step is what? define the designer...
- Mimio0
No xenicon, it's magic that lies behind "irreducibly complex" machine. You see, the designer is made out of "irreducibly complex" machines too.