Creationist Lies
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- JazX0
i dare you all to quit this thread at 800.
gruntt
(Jun 15 05, 11:26)Like Old English...
- discipler0
The thread is just annoying at this point, with people ignoring logical arguments (or not getting them) and asking questions that have already been dealt with in the thread. Not to mention, categorically false claims like "biology has demonstrated irreducible complexity wrong". Get a clue. Don't think I'm gonna last much longer in this.
- Dublao70
You’re going to hate me, but...
When I was younger people used to tell me that there was a god, and that, he did in fact love me very much. This was very hard for me to understand.
I used to think: God is to Earth as I am to My Ant Farm.
Sure I give-ith and take-ith away-ith, but I didn’t actually love any single ant in my ant farm. Shit I couldn’t even tell the little guys apart.I guess to me this means a few things:
1. If there is a god, he doesn’t love you.
2. You have the same chance of working these issues out as my dearly departed ants.Now go have some fun and quit stressing!
- JazX0
I agree. I stopped being serious long ago.
Better we start something else with a better name as well. Let's be fair.
- Mimio0
Discipler, You're making the logical fallacies.
- TheTick0
You know I got to thank everyone in this thread -yes, even you discipler..
It made me go back and think about all these big questions and wher eI really do stand spiritually and metaphysically..and physically I suppose in all of this..
My father recently passed away and if you haven't had to deal with the death of a parent (or child..or grew up in a warzone I suppose) then you haven't really had to deal with too much existential crisis and man I am still not sure which way is up..
But I remember being brought up all religious and then rejecting it all..and then one day a few years later rereading the bible by myself front to back and found myself in awe. I thought this was one mad deep body of knowledge - far deeper and more meaningful than I was ever told about - or even what I found in the normal telling of what it's all supposed to mean...
And I also started to metaphysically read alot of the chaos theory/complexity/quantum physics stuff and got an incredible sense of the universe to that as well..something awe inspiring..
Discipler - I guess that's why I get so personally upset. I find a literal reading of the bible and genesis in particular as kind of simple minded. And I fond the work of science - as opposed ot making the universe a cold and dark place - one filled with miracles and light.
I believe in god I think, not sure if I believe in a personal one though. If you need one cool...I'm kinda happy that god doesn't but into my business and I stay out of his...
The funny thing is I think I pray everyday - I usually say "Hey god it's me..." That works for me...All the dogma and all that other crap that comes out of churches about people telling other people wha's right or what god did or said? Strikes me as incredible human hubris..you know forgetting to remove the plank from your eye and all that...
For me it's not even that science and religion are contridictory - in fact science I truly believe originated is a form of heresy in a sense. Lots of religious guys - Galileo, Newton, Copernicus looking for evedince of god's work outside of the Bible..tat's still going on...why the church(es) are so violent to that its it fucks with there monopoly on being able to tell everyone about god and the attendant power.
These are my personal beliefs...
- discipler0
show me where, mimio... and I'll explain what you are not understanding.
- discipler0
appreciate you sharing from your heart, Tick.
- Mimio0
You're using symantics to say that God(a thing) doesn't need a cause to exist, because "it's a God" as you stated. If all things require a cause/initiation to exist, God needs a cause to exist. It's also not logical to assume that a supernatural thing exists in the first place.
- JazX0
See I knew you guys were both good. :)
Me on the other hand...
- JazX0
when I was kid my favorite snack was CornCurls,
Cheesalicious!
- mrdobolina0
logic dictates that ghosts don't exist.
- discipler0
mimio, things WHICH HAVE A BEGINNING require a cause. God is not in that category because He is without a beginning. This is a perfectly logical argument. Ask any expert logician whether or not this flies.
Last time i'm going over that one.
- JazX0
when I was kid my favorite snack was CornCurls,
Cheesalicious!
JazX
(Jun 15 05, 12:01)wrong thread sorry....
- xaoscontrol0
JazX...I used to put chocolate milk on my frosted flakes.....that was tasty.
- JazX0
did you use a Big Dipper to eat 'em?
- TheTick0
CornCurls are one of the delicious magical creations of either God or Science. Hail both!
- Jaline0
Cereal sucks
*sprints out of thread
- JazX0
Thread over
- TheTick0
That's all she wrote boy....
Let's do this again, same time next week? But next time we need more dick jokes...