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- JazX0
So Jazx, are you saved by the Blood of Jesus?
Mimio
(Jun 9 05, 11:20)Sure. Why not. I need saving. I was also baptized at 12.
- discipler0
Tick, ancient Old Covenant ceremonial laws that were specific to how God let the somewhat primitive and brutish Hebrew culture revel in their ways, has no bearing when you read and understand the New Covenant that came in Christ.
- Mimio0
Seems like a false dilemma to me. If you didn't have the invention of hell, you wouldn't need the invention the salvation and visa versa.
- discipler0
But, I thought this thread was about advice to jevad, who is considering attending church.
- Mimio0
This isn't helpful for someone considering the pros and cons of attending a xtian church and the types of beliefs that may exist there?
- gruntt0
i wish dicipler was a beer drinker.
i could come to him with any question about the sweet brew and he would fill my mind with all kinds of beer info.
- uberdesigner0
I hope the south rises again
so we can kick the shit out of them again!
- discipler0
Salvation is redemption from our sin nature, which we inherit from Adam. God made clear the need for salvation since the Adam's fall... long before the concept of Hell is introduced in scripture.
- TheTick0
Oh, right. Thanks Discipler. I forgot the Old Testament (the majority of the bible) was about those brutish jews. Silly me. They'll be what? Wallowing in hell after the Second Coming, right?
- JazX0
I hope the south rises again
so we can kick the shit out of them again!
uberdesigner
(Jun 9 05, 11:26)lol heheheh
- cosmo0
uberdesigner, damn dude.
- uberdesigner0
discipler, you really live in los angeles?
- discipler0
Point taken, Mimio. It's just that there's a trend here to pull passages out of context and twist them to support a belief that the Bible does not teach.
- yarsrevenge0
Mimio... do you know what hell is?
Please explain this to me
- TheTick0
Who is this Adam guy? I didn't inherit shit from him, let alone sin. I was born happy, innocent and cute as a button. If you got some kinda sinful guilty nature that's YOUR problem and YOUR solution. Keep your sin off of my fine upstanding life.
- Mimio0
Whatever Discipler,
Don't you stop believ'in in that story.
- uberdesigner0
uberdesigner, damn dude.
cosmo
(Jun 9 05, 11:27)well what can I say? all of those fuckers moved into the north after the civil war looking for work. that's why you can go into any small town and find rednecks. they've really mucked the place up.
- TheTick0
Well if that ain't the freakin joke of the day:
"It's just that there's a trend here to pull passages out of context and twist them to support a belief that the Bible does not teach.
discipler
(Jun 9 05, 11:28)"Gee, ain't that EXACTLY the point. I seem to think the entire Christian Taliban in the US is doing EXACTLY that.
- cosmo0
how do we know hell or heaven exist? wat if at the end of it all there is nothing? now that would be one sad thing wouldn't it.
i think heaven and hell was created by people to put fear in people. So that they wouldn't commit adultery, steal, etc.
- discipler0
Tick, you also quickly learned on your own how to rebel against your parents' wishes and disobey.
We're not only sinners by choice, but by nature also. We're born with it. Whether you like it or not. And God's standard is perfection.