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- moth0
most of these people don't even know HOW HIV is spread, let alone how to protect themselves.
the church should be giving away education. I don't care where the condoms come from.
- dr_strangedub0
discipler, thanks for the clarification, i meant the latter...
what does christ have to do with christianity.....
prove it
- discipler0
Well, I would say that Christ has everything to do with true Biblical Christianity. Christianity by (Biblical) definition is a personal and abundant relationship with the risen Christ. Now, if you are speaking of Christ's position toward, or relationship to what secular culture commonly refers to as "Christianity", usually referring to the collective protestant denominations (even though non-Christians are present there), it is Lord and King. Not sure that answers your question properly. As for proof... proof is subjective. Proof for me would be the unassailable truth of Christ's Ressurection, the astounding reliability of the Biblical record and it's teaching about the body of worldwide believers (i.e. the church).
Some interesting passages from the Bible...
- Romans 12:5
"so in Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others."- 1 Corinthians 12:12
"The body is a unit, though it is made up of many parts; and though all its parts are many, they form one body. So it is with Christ."- Ephesians 5:29
"After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church."
- mrdobolina0
religion is santa claus for adults.
- BobaFetus0
This thread made me think of those cool The Pope Smokes Dope t-shirts almost everyone had back in the day.
- discipler0
Does the santa claus thing include the atheist religion? I mean... since it requires more faith to reject the clear evidence of an intelligent designer?
After all, Atheism is synonymous with Secular Humanism. i.e. ...the worship of self, ultimately.
See, everyone is worshipping something. :-)
- dr_strangedub0
good points, discipler,. but that "body" which is spoken of can be anything at all. It can be the "microcosmic" body of humanity. It can be the "material" realm as malkuth in the kabbalistic system or the physicality of nature devoid of the 'spirit'. So, I think that the teachings of Christ ultimately teach the subtraction of what we know as "worship of Christ". In fact, what's in a name?
- mrdobolina0
Dont even bother arguing, I aint buying what you're selling.
- discipler0
dubs, I'm not terribly bright... I'm not fully understanding the metaphysical nature of your point. It is interesting though.
I suppose it comes down to a definition of terms. "Body" in the Bible is a New Testament term that refers exclusively to the collective of Christ following believers... those who have received him.
- John 1:12
"Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God."
- dr_strangedub0
ok, well, it's worth looking into the mystery schools....it's the true mechanism of what is referred to as the 'spirit'... when simplified or transmutated into a 'church', you get merely a political "body" that misconstrues the true sexuality of gnosticism. basically, everything you know in tradition has been manipulated to the point of becoming the opposite of the intention.....philosophy helps ease the pain of this realization...but it helps to have never bought into it in the first place...
- cosmo0
This is for leah.
- rabattski0
wow. people start refering to the bible. it's Religiontoday today.
- -sputnik-0
when it comes to underdeveloped countries becoming overpopulated and acquiring AIDS epidemics, the c. church certainly doesn't help. telling these people just not to do it is the most moronic and irresponsible argument.
some of them think they can be cured for raping virgins, for pete's sake.
- -sputnik-0
cured BY raping virgins, i meant
- opiate0
the devil lives in Rome
- cosmo0
so, leah do u still want him to die?
- -leah-0
i NEVER said i wanted him to die! geez, i don't wish death upon anyone unless they wish it for themselves
- cosmo0
hehehe don't kill me. We can watch 'Arrested development' together, even though i hate that show.