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  • lowimpakt2

    @Beeswax

    The United States has been at war in some form or another for about 93% of its existence.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li…

    this is why I chuckle when dickwads like Robo use the phrase "religion of peace" as an insult

    • Exactly.fadein11
    • that's obvious, I'm saying the absurd number of homicides happen.
      if you're in war you know, if your neighbour is going to shoot your kids tomorrow, you dont.
      Beeswax
    • I seriously think about this because I'll have a kid half Turk and half American probably.Beeswax
    • and the middle east has been at peace for how long, exactly?Gnash
    • Not since the Arab League was formed in 1945. You should totally do some research.monoboy
    • 15.000 murders every year in a country.
      And you compare yourself to Middle East?
      To the wars that's initiated by the US?
      Beeswax
    • I'm talking about domestic violence. It's insane there. Fuck middle east then, compare yourself to another first world country and say, we rule!Beeswax
    • per capita murder rate in the USA is 4.88. in turkey? 4.3Gnash
    • What's the life expectancy of one blond, Scandinavian woman standing on a street in Istanbul??robotron3k
    • lol, monoboy. the arab league. good one.Gnash
    • arab league is a meaningless org that enjoys neither impact, or respect in the arab arenaGnash
    • ya, i should 'totally' do some research. thanks for the tipGnash
    • I never went to Turkey and never will.sureshot
    • We are advised to be very alert and its very risky to travel to Turkey at the momentsureshot
    • you can read it here. just translate. https://tinyurl.com/…sureshot
    • Happy to help.monoboy
    • (even though you completely misunderstood the point). Lol.monoboy
    • nope totally got, the middle east has been at peace since 1945. you're a genius.Gnash
    • ... if it weren't for those pesky westerners, all would be going along just swimmingly.Gnash
    • yeah those lovely westerners mass murdering millions of innocents, let's just sit back and say that's okay lovely westerners ;)fadein11
    • yup, it's the garden of eden, otherwiseGnash
    • my wife who was born in and raised in LA just said this to me I swear to God.
      "This is another reason to raise our kids in here" LOL.
      Beeswax
    • Gnash, Robo & Monoboy & Sureshot. You guys a pretty fucking ignorant lol. You think Turkey is in Arab League? You think here is a warzone?Beeswax
    • You idiots don't even have proper health insurance I bet. Hey if you ever get cancer come here ok. I'm serious.Beeswax
    • Can't let you die there with this ignorance if you dont get killed by a gunman or a cop there one day. FFSBeeswax
    • Oh my, the nonsense is strong is this thread.monoboy
    • I'd like to go turkey one day...pango
    • Monoboy is the one who brought Arab league. And Monoboy was the one who said it was a war zone, not me -- I said the oppositeGnash
    • (and we have great healthcare here, btw)Gnash
    • There are killer maniacs everywhere, motivated by all sorts of idiocy. I've not once said it's all cake and ice-cream on this side of the pondGnash
    • but your statement the the mideast is safer than the usa is just nonsenseGnash
    • This should end your drivel about US being safer than Turkey.
      http://www.nationmas…
      Beeswax
    • a) you said mid-east.
      b) per capita there's not much difference
      Gnash
    • and according to your own ministry. 86% of Turkish women suffer domestic abuseGnash
    • but glad you feel safe there. it's all relativeGnash
    • safe as long as you're not a professor, human right's activist, journalist, kurd, Alevis, Yazidis, woman, critic of erdogan...Gnash
    • ... or Enes Kanter lol_niko
  • Ramanisky23

    • yep, the same scenario again and again and again... the facebook badges and all.Bennn
    • Here we go again. Ridiculing people for showing sympathy. Get over yourselves.monospaced
    • It's not sympathy but a bullshit attempt at EMPATHY often used to draw attention to the person w/the badge on their social media and not the actual crisis.PonyBoy
    • My gut tells me that anyone w/actual 'sympathy' to offer (who has experienced terrorism upfront) wouldn't fuck around about it on social mediaPonyBoy
    • ^ yepset
    • haha. nicedeathboy
    • I hear ya. I don't do the social medi thing anyway, it just doesn't bother me like it seems to trigger you. ;)monospaced
    • The people I know who do it aren't attention seekers ... at least that's not how I view them. I see the positive side of it, I suppose.monospaced
    • people like set are so cynical and "dead inside" that those who show empathy must be attention seekers or blind sheep. Sad.fadein11
    • oh you twomonospaced
    • I just find it highly strange to be triggered by others showing of empathy for a tragedy. Who fucking cares.fadein11
    • I think mono and fade just got 'triggered' by a cartoon they don't agree with...

      *runs :D
      PonyBoy
    • I hear ya. It's the same as internet outrage. Impotent and not deserving of any real respect.cannonball1978
  • chukkaphob3

    The human race is still in its primitive stage of development.

    Animals. With a little more brainpower than other species.

    But all in all, animals in the jungle, attacking each other.

    Main goal: survival.

    Until we evolve into a higher spiritual state of individual and collective being, death & terror caused by one human onto another will perpetuate.

    It's just life as we know it. Another day in the jungle.

    • oh how easy to be so rational when one of your family members hasn't been blown to pieces... but yes true.fadein11
    • Animals are more human than us if you want to know. Human should have evolved connected to nature and everything would be different.Bennn
    • Humans fucked everything up with religions and money. There's no issue to this fuck up.Bennn
    • money is a great invention. how else could you trade values so freely.deathboy
    • Maybe the Human race is doomed to kill itself since Day 1 ?Bennn
    • Singularity is right around the corner...thank you baby Allah!utopian
    • Just don't give up on hope just yet... Trump will be president soon. He is going to make not only America great again....but the rest of world as well!utopian
    • @fadein11 how do u know that 1 of my family members wasn't blown to pieces? why assume that? why imply insensitivity? My point here was not about that. At all.chukkaphob
    • chucl, because it's statistically more probably to win a lottery then die in a terror attract - that's how we can presume that it didn't happen to your family.pr2
    • your question to fadein also reveals how much you fear (despite your New Age-y write up) that which is irrational and close to impossible to occur.pr2
    • @pr2 A terror attack is a statistical number to you? A terror attack must occur in your immediate vicinity in order for you to accept its real?chukkaphob
    • @pr2 I fear what is irrational? I fear that us humans are stuck in our primitive state of development.chukkaphob
    • chuck, "primitive state of development" is fear of irrational. probably without knowing it yourself, you reveal it in your writing.pr2
    • @chuk - my point was the level of hate on both sides comes from innocent deaths which leads to a huge desire for retribution - people are not thinking about thefadein11
    • stuff you mention... stop taking an obvious comment so personally - read below the lines - like we all should on days like these.fadein11
    • yes we are animals - I am aware of that every time I eat, take a dump etc. but it was a rather simplistic comment on the tragedy.fadein11
    • @pr2 no, it does not mean fear of irrational. Also, I never mentioned or alluded to rational/irrational. I spoke of spiritual enlightenment. You don't follow.chukkaphob
    • @fadein11 "people are not thinking about the stuff you mention"..yes, exactly! That's exactly my point. People are being eye-for-an-eye animal survivors. Still.chukkaphob
    • Realising we are all animals isn't going to fix anything.fadein11
    • Of course it is. Species survive when united, not divided. Our species was historically segregated.chukkaphob
    • Ignorance & fear (of the unknown - namely: the other tribe) led to the human-made different religions (geographically)chukkaphob
    • Ignorance & fear (of the unknown - namely: the other tribe) led to the human-made different religions (geographically)chukkaphob
    • and we're still in the primitive stage of uniting the species, still fighting amongst ourselves, still looking to survive each other's threat within the specieschukkaphob
    • Once we reach the level of collective spiritual consciousness then we can see the human race evolve beyond its current primitive animal-survivor state.chukkaphob
    • < Hear, hear!jagara
  • sureshot4

    He left a note in his car pledging allegiance to Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL)


    http://www.westmonster.com/new-y…

    • was it next to his passport?fadein11
    • Uber also confirmed that he was a driver and has been banned from the Uber app.sureshot
    • The truck: https://pbs.twimg.co…sureshot
    • uber is funding terrorist cellsGnash
    • well thats convenient!mugwart
    • he's short afGnash
    • if uber treated their drivers better this shit wouldn't have happendsofas
    • ^ there is probably alot of truth to thismugwart
    • ps, the truck he used for his terror act was from Home Depotsureshot
  • Beeswax0

    An angry American strikes again.

    Why is it not a French, or a German or a Swedish or a Greek or a Turk or an Iranian rain bullets over their own people in a concert or in a theater or in kindergarten?

    What kind of an upbringing or a mindset make Americans the most dangerous civilians in the world?

    How come Americans kill an average of 15.000 civilians every year(with all sorts of methods, not just guns) in their country while ISIS killed 2500 people in average a year globally with most of those casualties belong to soldiers from other armed forces.

    This makes us beg the question, "Is it safer in America than the Middle East?"
    Is there a constant war going on in the USA that we don't know?
    Where is the actual terror?

    Back to you Robotroll.

    • what if one's a kurd - how safe are you over there?Gnash
    • Safer than you are. They don't mainly shoot civilians at least.Beeswax
    • combine couple of countries to match the US population and compare the numbers of homicides.Beeswax
    • oh no, no, no, this man was clearly mentally ill. He does not represent American values. It's a sad reality every country must face, the mentally ill...sofakingback
    • Now, if he had been any race but white. That motherfucking dirty terrorist! monster! Sleeper cell part of the grand plan to destroy democracy and christianity!sofakingback
    • safer, huh -- is that why you had to move your family out of istanbul? safer in the middle east - what a jokeGnash
    • Inequality and ignorance. That's why.monoboy
    • True I didn't feel safe in Istanbul last year but I put it in perspective and man a Chicago is Istanbul x 10, or LA, or NYC.Beeswax
    • When ISIS strikes, its a big thing, but over there it's like an ISIS attack everyday and it's normal.Beeswax
    • I had once honked a car on a highway in LA. My wife freaked out, told me there's a thing called "Highway shootings" in AmericaBeeswax
    • Safer in Turkey than LA, NYC of Chicago. okGnash
    • Seems to be a USA pattern, minorities commit small crimes, daily, while white guys of European ancestry commit terror attacks. But none yell Allah Akbar.robotron3k
    • stfu robo with your complete nonsense about minoritiesmonospaced
    • So it's the affiliation that bothers you? Cool bro.sofakingback
    • It looks like beeswax is believing a little too much hyperbole about large American cities without real experience to comment on.ETM
    • 7 years in SF, married with an American since 2004, residing in Turkey for the past 7 years. I have more knowledge of the US than you have of here.Beeswax
    • How'd u know that Turkey is safer than US. http://www.nationmas…Beeswax
    • Excellent points beeswaxset
    • You compared societal violence to jihad? Holy cow, what a brainwashed idiot you are beeswax.Hayoth
    • Nice Strawman argument idiot.Hayoth
  • Beeswax3

    I went to a friday prayer in Barcelona when we were visiting the city 2 years ago. I had found this mosque in an apartment on a street off of Rambla by asking some local shopowners.

    As I entered I was really surprised with the diversity of the congregation. African, Pakistani/Afghan, Saudi looking men. Not a group of people that you see often in Turkey.
    They looked at me like they were surprised with my look, I remember I felt a bit embarassed, I was wearing a hawaii shirt, shorts and sunglasses looking just like a tourist.

    Anyways it wasn't a nice mosque at all, dirty, hot and it smelled. I just did my obligatory prayer and left there in 5 minutes.

    Now I don't understand why some Daesh sympathiser would do such a thing in Spain? Why Spain? Taking the revenge of Muslim expulsion in 1600?
    Also the method? When you drive a car into a crowd, "as a muslim terrorist", you must think, is there any muslim in the crowd? Even according to his perplexed view of Islam he might have committed the biggest sin by killing or injuring a muslim.
    As a normal muslim, killing one innocent person, regardless of religion, is equal to killing all humanity, this is the law.

    So I really want to know one of these men, ask them, wtf you were thinking? Do you help muslims or do you destroy them? Do you care about anybody else in this world, or do you think the God has given you a direct message about not to care about anybody.

    No sane person, no muslim can do such a thing. Not even with a terrorist mind.

    • it's not muslims dude, it's daesh.uan
    • "a hawaii shirt, shorts and sunglasses "

      dude... ;)
      lowimpakt
    • well, given the amount of muslim victims at the hand of isil, i don't think those committing the acts of violence are thinking about their victims at all.jaylarson
    • the louder the better :(jaylarson
    • they have stated multiple times they want to reconquer Spainernexbcn
    • They brainwashed themselves on the webBennn
    • These people do such things because they believe a higher power either demands it, wills it or supports it. Earthly conisquences don't deter them._niko
    • They have no respect for life on earth not their own and certainly not anyone else's. Why would they? they think eternal happiness and bliss and virgins await_niko
  • Gardener4

    • They forgot
      #PrayForAmerica - 20 January 2017
      kona
    • how about #actfor or #stopPraying and actually do something for_niko
    • cause the customer service there is absolutely shit. There hasn't been a prayer answered in over 3000 years, and I thought Bell was bad._niko
    • praying works thodopepope
    • #Pray for whateveri_was
    • lol @ praying worksmonospaced
  • monoboy3

    Once again. Second generation, born and bred in the UK. Radicalised and known the the Police.

    Keen Arsenal fan, who wore a football top whilst carrying out the attacks. If that's true, how much more Haram can you be? During Ramadan too.

    These pricks are living in some sort of martyrdom fantasy whilst actively participating in British culture. It's properly twisted.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-n…

    • *It is not clear if he was born in the UK or abroad.monoboy
    • *and first generationmonoboy
    • 'martyrdom fantasy' is a good term for what these imagination-less pricks suffer.detritus
    • Born in Pakistanfadein11
    • according to the article he got kicked out of mosques, two neighbors went to police about his radical behaviours and scotland yard waited for him to do smtng.Beeswax
    • this reminded me of former Turkish prime minister once saying "we can't arrest suicide bombers before they blow themselves up"Beeswax
    • there should be a three strike rule, they easily give themselves away before commiting a crime. one or two signs could be a mistake but after third pack them upBeeswax
    • and drop them on the sahara.Beeswax
    • https://www.youtube.…mugwart
    • It's easy to apply your own rhetoric to a person when they're shot dead with no trial.robthelad
  • fadein110

    Just a small reminder from 2016 for those on this site in the dark.

    More than 30,000 Muslims from across the world meet in the UK to reject Isis and Islamic extremism

    http://www.independent.co.uk/new…

    • I reject a lot of things, but they still happen.
      There are billions of other equally-useless people such as me out there.
      detritus
    • these are Ahmadi muslims which make up less than 1% of muslims. and to boot, are persecuted by most all of other muslims for their beliefsGnash
    • ... for those on this site in the darkGnash
    • Ah yes.
      https://www.theguard…
      detritus
    • Gnash, the bringer of lightDillinger
    • is it similar to how catholics wanted to murder protestants and vice versa? Jesus stop looking for an excuse to hate all muslims. Or perhaps get to know a few.fadein11
    • @gnash - so you are saying that this group of muslims are the only who reject ISIS/extremism? I really hope not. Because that is ridiculous.fadein11
    • I'm only referring to the 30K you pointed out -- obviously trying to suggest that they speak for majority of muslims, when they clearly don't.Gnash
    • I found the Arab league summit to be far more impactful but unfortunately it was just 'herp derp, look at Trumpf' completely missing the significance of it all.IRNlun6
    • Arab-Islamic American Summit rather...IRNlun6
    • @gnash they do speak for the majority of muslims - are you entertaining the idea that the majority approve of extremism? silly. As I said comment when you havefadein11
    • muslim friends.fadein11
    • you're quite wrong there. the majority of muslims aren't fans of this particular sect, and they absolutely don't speak for them.Gnash
    • the only idea I'm entertaining is that the purpose of your post is not support by the content of it.Gnash
    • *supported. and the fact that my best friend, from the age 16, is a muslim Turk doesn't make me an expert in islam.Gnash
    • not that, is a fucking idiotic thing to say.Gnash
    • your heart's in the right place but your brain could use some omega-3Gnash
    • Yes as you said before. I stand corrected if this particular flavour of Islam who reject extremism are not a good example. Of course having a muslim friend fromfadein11
    • 16 does not make you an expert on Islam. I have a number of longtime friends. And I have consistently debated the problems with Islam and indeed all religionsfadein11
    • with them. And I have also experienced nothing but warmth and positivity from their extended families despite them knowing I am an atheist. I am probably goingfadein11
    • off topic but I really don't think blanket judgement of people of a certain faith is helpful when a miniscule proportion of them are actually carrying out thefadein11
    • atrocities. I think that is the aim of terrorism and I will always fight against it. Not as a so called 'liberal' but because I was brought up to respect peoplefadein11
    • however different they are. Fuck ISIS, fuck terrorism. Noone disputes that - but don't play out their intentions because then they have won.fadein11
    • @gnash - I do rant a lot and should slow down when typing. And i know I wind people up. I have you. so my apologies for that. I know you talk a lot of sense.fadein11
    • Whats really sad is I eat loads of omega 3 - I eat fish (of the oily variety) around 5 times a week. So perhaps I am just stupid.fadein11
    • yes everyone heard there was free money being given out in the UK, no doubt Muslims are headed hererobotron3k
    • the truth of the matter is that isis is overwhelmingly sunni. Probably 99% if not 100%. Same for al quad, same for the 9-11 hijackers. they've been massacering_niko
    • shiites and other muslim denominations for decades. Gnash is absolutely correct that if only shiites, kurds, ismaelis, ahmadis, etc protest the actions of ISIS_niko
    • then it's almost a moot point. If sunnis are fostering this extremism and not doing anything to curb it, and are being protected by liberals sweeping them_niko
    • together with other muslims who are standing up, and not seeing the difference then it's a dangerous and misguided policy._niko
    • lol gnash

      +1
      set
    • Fuck themmaquito
  • Fax_Benson3

    this isn't going away. Liberals have to wake up and acknowledge their role in this - but the reason the debate isn't going anywhere isn't because the PC police have said it's taboo. It's because the language of the debate is so fucking infantile. Deliberately so.

    • agree, liberals shouldn't be defending these fucktards, but liberals should also be ridiculing christians and all other organized religions as well._niko
    • why? organised religion isn't going away, like it or not. we're stuck with it.Fax_Benson
    • why should we be stuck with it? shouldn't we educate our children to reject superstisious nonsense that our blind ancestors believed in thousands of years ago?_niko
    • by all means but you can't and won't make everybody do that. demanding it will make things worse.Fax_Benson
    • yeah it'll be a slow burn but it needs to happen sooner rather than later. If we do our part we can change it in a generation..._niko
    • but reaching the rest of the world is the tricky part._niko
    • and it needs to be an awakening nothing forced which will be worse_niko
    • I don't think any liberal makes excuses for ISIS or radical Islam - it's when the the fundamentalist line gets blurred that I get annoyed.fadein11
    • you can't say anything, not a single word, about the issues with Islam - with out being destroyed by liberal groups and media.inteliboy
    • i.e. they call Ayaan Hirsi Ali a bigot. it's unbelievable. Both the far left and right could be the demise of the west. Morons.inteliboy
    • It's always the extremes that are dangerous. Life is a lot of blurry gray, there are no absolutes.formed
    • At this point in life I'd lean heavily towards religion causing far more divide and danger than helping people.formed
    • i find a belief system in a superior god like government more harmful. People always choose to believe in shit, its identifying the nature of the belief and whdeathboy
    • ere it is going. I propose most of higher edu is a monetary belief system that propagates the lord as head of gov. scary "educated" are no better than the educadeathboy
    • ted of a a very strict bible belt mindset.deathboy
  • maquito3

    Fuck all gods

  • i_monk1

    (It hasn't officially been deemed a terrorist attack, but it follows the pattern of recent attacks elsewhere:)

    9 dead, 16 injured after pedestrians struck by van in Toronto

    https://globalnews.ca/news/41617…

    • it wasnt a terrorist attack.Al_dizzle
    • Sidewalk driving, high-speed rental van mows down 25, nobody felt terror?robotron3k
    • lol, robotron, are you michael scott? https://i.pinimg.com…dorf
    • and another mental case wanting to make the newsGnash
    • Officially not linked to a terror plot. *Whew*. Take your thoughts and prayers back for a refund.i_monk
    • Armenian. Usually quiet and mild mannered. Except the Kardashian clan retards of course._niko
    • ^ tomorrow is remembrance day for the Armenian genocideGnash
    • I'd be surprised if this doesn't eventually become labeled as terrorism.CyBrainX
  • pinkfloyd0

    These terrorists who are making these home made bombs, how destructive can these bombs be? I mean, if they wanted to, can they blow up a bridge? How safe are new yorkers on the bridge because I don't see much security around there.

    • http://s3.amazonaws.…Gnash
    • ^ homemadeGnash
    • Asking for a friend?PeterPancake
    • Great, this whole site is on the list now. XDMaaku
    • jet fuelApeRobot
    • Manchester (IRA):
      https://ichef-1.bbci…
      fadein11
    • London Docklands(IRA):
      https://cdn-01.belfa…
      fadein11
    • can we not have fbi tracking links, and someone tell me answers in text rather than links?pinkfloyd
    • ok, they can be extremely destructive. how do you not know that?fadein11
    • yup. they make big boomGnash
    • Homemade bombs can be as big as you want — just expect to get a visit from the Feds when you order x hundred kilos of [redacted].detritus
    • My worry with bridges — suspension ones anyway — is less explodeysplodey than thermite, which I'm sure would be better, cheaper and easier to deploy.detritus
    • samesame train tracks. an old terracotta pot, a few kg of ground aluminium, long magnesium strip to light and there you go — a derailled train.detritus
    • I sure hope I'm missing something because I've thought for a long time that sort of shit would be too easy to do and too difficult to stop.detritus
    • so we are really defenseless and it can happen anytime time in target areaspinkfloyd
    • somebody was saying the other day that 75% of child porn sites on the dark web are set up by the cops as traps for sex-freaks, and that maybeFax_Benson
    • most of the bomb-making how-to videos are deliberately shonky.Fax_Benson
    • The Anarchist's Cookbook was famously faulty, wasn't it? I'm sure I once read it was a ruse by the CIA to encourage bad actors to mangle themselves.detritus
    • i have a copy. the publisher stole the copyright from the author. the author eventually denounced the bookGnash
    • https://www.theguard…Gnash
  • ernexbcn3

    a newspaper is reporting that 4 terrorists attempted another vehicle attack in the port of Cambrils and were killed by the police

  • Ramanisky21

    Our Dear Leader speaks .. err tweets

  • detritus3

    After going to drink with the Borough market traders on Saturday night, guess who went to Finsbury park for a picnic with some of that group yesterday evening with some of that same group?

    When the helicopters whirled overhead and sirens all about, we all checked our phones, but it was too early to report.

    When we eventually left and got buses from the station a couple of hours later, we were utterly oblivious to what had transpired a very short distance away.

    Fun times.

    • Damn phone editingdetritus
    • Lol -1detritus
    • All the rules of Muslim religion, and it being quite an alien custom for the general UK population, is just creating a divide.fruitsalad
    • Throw into the mix some terrorism from a very minor muslim fraction, and a general lack of willingness to assimilate,fruitsalad
    • and you've got a two tectonic plates in friction, something going to snap on either side...fruitsalad
    • If you welcome a stranger into your home, you're willing to hear their story and hear how they live, but they a guest must quickly adapt to your customs...fruitsalad
    • otherwise it's just bad manners.fruitsalad
    • assimilate your own cock hole you racist prick. out of the blue justifying a terrorist attack because they haven't taken up the customs of your shithole?kingsteven
    • don't feed the fruity troll - he spouts his bile at any opportunity.fadein11
    • Idiots, I'm not justifying it, I'm trying to "zoom out" and look from afar and guess what is causing all this nonsense.fruitsalad
    • the problem with guesses is they are often wrong.lowimpakt
    • zoom out and look at the real causefadein11
    • ok, I'm mistaken, which makes sense seeing the extent of the Police involvement - this happend about an hour after we left last night.detritus
    • What doesn't make sense then are all the helicopters and sirens beforehand, and how my partner seems to manage to miss these things by about an hour...detritus
    • (not implying conspiracy, just weird coincidence... and perhaps a little bit of conspiracy where my partner's concerned...)detritus
  • Beeswax-1

    Did UK funded jihadists?
    Yes.
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-n…
    Did US created ISIS & Al-Qaida?
    Yes.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/ame…
    Did Israel benefit from these groups?
    Yes.
    Did this video not leaked?
    Yes

    so how come anybody still claims that Quran commands killing of innocents?

    I mean most of you are pretty ignorant right and some of you are not ignorant but biased because of anti-religion, atheism, but don't you know that for over 1400 years a big part of Spain, all of Balkans, Israel, North Africa, Middle East, Persia up to China and all the other religions lived in these places lived under Muslim Empires?

    They had their Churches, they had their Synagogs, Ottomans helped bring Jews to Israel that were running away from Spanish expulsion. Moors created universities that all the scholars of different religions worked together.

    In Middle ages, under a monarchy run by Sharia Law, no non-muslims killed, harrased, massacred. Their rights protected by the law of Quran, so much that they actually became the richest of their societies because they were not obligated to join wars or army.
    If it was ordered in Quran don't you think they would wipe of all the other religions, destroy they temples?
    There's no such thing in Quran.
    For this reason Islam was the religion of peace until this century. Until first, they got pillaged by colonialists, then industrialists and lastly capitalists. You can squeeze communists somewhere as well.

    Go to Egypt as a tourist, travel to Turkey, Morocco even Iran. No one would touch you, they would welcome you more than your mom welcomes you, but ask them what they think about the Western powers.
    They are not as idiot as some the people on QBN, they won't say Bible or Torah says such and such so we got ruined by their military attacks.
    They know how to separate the outcomes of a political propaganda or a political agenda of Western countries from the citizens of those countries.
    They won't attack your book or your belief. But they will attack your single perspective views on the world. Just like I do.

    • Read. http://www.jewishvir…Beeswax
    • You're right, but expect lots of downvotes from the idiots...set
    • Learn.
      https://en.wikipedia…
      Beeswax
    • Do islam respect other religions?
      https://www.quora.co…
      Beeswax
    • re the vid:
      https://www.metabunk…
      Gnash
    • ok lets accept the video is fake. ISIS members cut heads.Beeswax
    • True though. greece was under ottoman rule for over 400 years yet able to keep their religion.Gnash
    • All this massive propaganda against Muslims must be serving some purpose right. Coz it doesn't really help any muslims. Who benefits from this?Beeswax
    • nobody is born an extremist. There are no baby fundamentalist. They are all good law abiding peaceful Muslims. Then they snap. How do you know who's next?_niko
    • And we could say that the villification of Islam is Isis ultimate goal to unite all Muslims against non believers for a final apocalyptic battle_niko
    • But what do you do in the mean time? Sing kumbia with your dick in your hand waiting for the next idiot to blow himself and your children up?_niko
    • And giving everyone a lesson on how Islam was so great 1000 years ago is like saying we shouldn't trust the swedes because they were blood thirsty marauders in_niko
    • The dark ages. This is 2017. If we're still killing each other over bullshit religion then we might as well still be in the dark ages._niko
    • Atheism is not anti-religion. I believe there is no god, so if you're asking for respect for others' beliefs, please show some respect for others' beliefs.sr_rosa
    • We're all just humans at the end of the day...history shows atheists, Christians and Muslims are all capable of doing horrible things.yuekit
    • However trying to excuse all Muslims of any responsibility and saying ISIS was made up in a CIA movie studio might be going a bit far.yuekit
    • If you've ever had to organise a meeting, you'll know this kind of undertaking wouldn't be possible.monoboy
    • People talk. However, agree that we're no hearing the truth. This is about money and power, not religion.monoboy
    • ^ yep.mugwart
    • You fucking morons, this was for a movie. LOLseverian
  • mrAtor3

    The UK is the most observed nation in the world thanks to Mother Teresa's snoopers charter, did it work, did it fuck!

    12 years on from 7/7 and we have learnt nothing, nada, zilch, feck all. But we do have some nice military rapid response units to make us all feel safer.

    The UK gov need to stop British citizens becoming radicalised instead of spending all our hard earned tax on wars in the middle east. The repeat patterns are painfully obvious: Male, British, known to Security & extreme religious views.

    Finally, look at what has happened so far on Teresa's (Mrs U-Turn lie fest) watch: Westminster attacks, NHS hacks, Manchester attacks. It's only going to get worse with her in charge...a lot worse.

    • +1fadein11
    • I hear you but UK is making a lot of money and making the government infrastructure iron tight from these terror attacks. Government level its big business.mugwart
    • I do agree with your points though!mugwart
    • The UK has been the world's most snooped-upon nation in the world far before May's rubber-stamping of preëxisting strategies existant for decades.detritus
    • People have these airy fairy fantasies that ['New'] Labour didn't have anything to do with thecurrent situation. The UK has always been thus.detritus
    • Ok, just to be clear, fuck Labour toomrAtor
    • @det - I don't know anyone who doesn't blame Blair and New Labour for pretty much every mess we are in now.fadein11
    • Jack Straw, Labour Home Sec. at the time, was a fucking authoritarian demon who laid the foundations for the current erosion of civil liberties.face_melter
    • He introduced additions to the Criminal Justice Act that made even Michael Howard balk. Fuck him.face_melter
    • Not to mention his blood lust for Iraq and sucking Pinochet's rancid cock.face_melter
    • English havent stop fighting in centuries. We financed the 'thugs', we had the pirates on the pay roll. God save the fucking queen. But hey we had the beatles.mugwart
  • _niko3

    this is pretty brutal, a photographer embedded with Iraqi forces hunting Daesh.

    http://projects.thestar.com/iraq…

    • so saddbloc
    • <<< NSFL folksfyoucher1
    • Damnmoldero
    • Some part of the World is still in Dark Ages.Bennn
    • Besides content, that site's UX is wonderful.maquito
    • And by that I meant: Horrible topic; good journalism.maquito
  • utopian2

    • Dude she did a terror attack on my heart just now.cherub
    • chukkapubes is trying to steal my babe.utopian
    • I know I saw that. Chukka get your dirty paws off hercherub
    • terro what? for real?pango
    • terrorize my dick.ApeRobot
    • ^ a bit of soup came outta my nose cherub :) Anna Nyström from Sweden, looking good...helloeatbreathedrive
    • @Utopian I did you and the QBN community a favor! Look at her TWICE on the cover! what seems to be the problem? You should all be grateful. :Dchukkaphob
    • lol chukka!utopian