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- freshmode0
any new versions?
I didn't read all the posts so you probably already posted a new version? Maybe not? Either way, did you turn this in already? Still working on it?
IMO, it doesn't look like anything new or different. Although that is a broad statement, I think you could have done something that refects the company a bit more. The nav is to small and washed out. I get metal & tech mixed with money. But neither one done correctly.
You can do a lot with little content. Think about a modular approach. Consider levels of importance. Consider a color system for sections based on what they currently have.
Communicate what the company is and the purpose of the website.
Post a link if you have made changes or have already turned this in. I would like to see how this turned out.
word!
- atomica0
It is a little poison looking, just look into some color theory and go with a color that most represents their goal. They are trying to sell something right. I have to reinforce everyone elses statement, don't build around a photo you think is cool, or you feel limited too. Thats bad news bears. Think out a concept that will help sell them better. As for the flux idea, it is an awesome example of the direction you should probably think, since you're limited photowise... the emphasis on type and shape should be your friend. Indeed. I also agree its rather small. Don't say its cause the photo.... thats not good designer talk... maybe...
- oeuf0
"Simplifying your buisness by doing lots of crazy matrix effects"
- dconstrukt0
where is this flux site?
- dconstrukt0
Oeuf: yeah thats it....I'm working on a new version using an I frame to show the work in a bigger size.
atomica: he said all my sites look alike.
If they are ALL basically sales letters and THAT is the format that sells in that industry then DUH, you do what works.
The sms dating site looks NOTHING like the others.
The fact that my sites all have a lot of copy means they all look alike?
I find that to be a dumb thing to say. Thats like saying that every site with Iframes looks alike.
Just dumb.
Marketing wise, they all come to me with the same thing, so I give them what they want.
This client is a bit conservative with things.
The client has to be pleased, they're paying for the work....sometimes I might not like it but hey, you gotta do what you gotta do. If I had a ton of work and didnt care about one in particular then it wouldnt matter.
I'm curious.... for a designer to ask another designer questions to help brainstorm makes one sound unprofessional?
Where I come from its called brainstorming.....
Based on what you said, that means every site that uses stock images is shit.
like their site?
I can go on and on....
The image one the homepage is a stock image.
Its easy to knock someone, but you better believe I'm gonna open my mouth and slam someone when they talk out of their ass.
Like I said earlier, opinions are like assholes, everyones got them.
F.Y.I I did take heed to some really good advice, by a lot o people that took time to help, I appreciate that.
Some of it I didnt want to hear, but did with an open mind and I'm putting it to use.
Thanks for the help. :o)
No hard feelings.
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- dconstrukt0
Ian: thanks for the heads up dude...
i'm pissed...my lomo is being fixed....grrrrrrrr.
havent had it for a few weeks.
bastards.
yeah, the client wants something similar to media temple.....style wise...
but conservative per say.
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- ian0
Dump the photo, it looks very tacky and the lime green is quite nausea inducing.
Grab a digital camera and take 1 hour to shoot some textures/close up shots and then use details out of them. Give you something different and not as tacky.The layout and interface looks quite cool, if a little safe but thats probably what the client wants. Just do somethin with the images.
- peteski0
good skills. did not read the other posts. the $ is way too strong/prominent. and if you're good with the colors so am I.
- stewart0
pffft, corporate.
- atomica0
Wow, Assassin Ave was pretty direct to your issue. And you shot him down. Your sites are very much all alike. And I'm pretty sure not every client comes to you with the same identity and mission. Design is about creative solution making. Not getting the job done and getting paid. (althought I'll admit sometimes we gotta do what we gotta do to please a client). Asking me what else you can do beside use stock photos makes you sound really unprofessional. If I remember correctly there are seven elements to design. And I'm pretty sure none of them are stock photography. Utilize the seven elements and come up with a kick ass, problem solving, money making design. It's possible. It's called design. Meh...... unity, pattern, symmetry, color, line, type, etc..... bleargh.
- oeuf0
is that your site dconstrukt?
- dconstrukt0
the flux site is nice but its too designy i personally dont think something like that is right for what I'm trying to do.
i think we tend to design things too much.....
"we" meaning designers as a whole.
my take is that clients want to be shown how to make money with the investment...the site.
i suppose I tend to mix design with business...whereas maybe some of you guys dont....
its not a knock on anyone..i wish i wasn't able to think like this sometimes cause I feel like it limits my creativity....
I need to work on my concepting as far as design goes...
with me its like either i have a kick ass idea or i dont...if i dont i'm in deep shit. it could take a while for me to come up with anything worthwhile.
anyone got any ideas about that one?
workin on a different version of it...slightly different
lol
- atomica0
LOL. go directly to school. Design is all about the business. It's about communicating and selling the most effectively. The fact that you're blind to that in this case scares me. I don't think we're saying, "make something trendy artsy cool" We're saying you put yourself infront of a small variety of stock photos with no inspiration aka a brick wall. If you stopped on your first idea you're not trying to sell that product effectively, IMHO. Argh. Sorry if any of thats offensive or anything..... its just about strategy and concept, and the customer -> client relationship.
- dconstrukt0
heres an updated version....
the client seems to like the overall layout.
itsgoing to be centered and have some type of a bg around it with a bit of white space.
i'm not 100% sure of the images yet as I need to figure that shit out....
ideas?
its for a telecom consulting co.
i've checked out the "competition" and their sites ALL look like shit.
Thats who i'm going to go after next.
if i had a few designers that were good programmers as well i could outsource the work......
i think i'm able to get a bunch of jobs in the next couple of months....
anyone up for it?
thanks for ALL the responses guys.
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- dconstrukt0
thanks atomica.....
"The fact that you're blind to that in this case scares me"
blind to selling the most effectively?
I never assumed nor thought that anyone was saying make something trendy cool, not sure where you got that from, maybe thats your take on it.....its certainly not mine.
i posted this up because its a MOCK UP. its NOT a finished idea.....its in the beginning stages....so I'd suggest you think about that first.
I understand where you're coming from but you also need to understand where i am coming from as well.
its a mock up...not a finished piece...not by far. i'm exploring different things.....
tomorrow i might wake up with a killer concept and start working on it...and guess what? it might be 100% different than this one.
you're telling me all this stuff but its not helping becuase you're not explaining it....
remember the saying: telling isnt selling.
sell me on what you're telling me.
lol
i'm not mad.....i need to get stoned. :o)
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- atomica0
You just kept saying they wouldn't dig the designing and the artsy.... We all understand its a mockup. But you make it sound like a sealed deal when you say "I'm limited with my photos and size" We offered suggestions that involved other aspects of design. Stuff thats just as if note more effective/timeless as a stock photo. It was an offered route. And you responded by saying it doesn't sell. That was the blindness I was referring to. That was pretty naive. Thats all I'm saying. Does that explain it better? You kept nailing that stuck with a photo fact. Don't be that guy. Thats all I gotta say. Happy tokin'.
- dconstrukt0
atomica, i understand where you're coming from.
and i registered to the stock site...so that should help.
but you cant reasonably compare a site like acura or saab with the budgets to have sweet photos to this.
i dont see anything special concept wise with those sites....the acura site was simple...no concept.
I was referring to the one site with the orange or the flux site someone posted in this thread.....and overall i was referring to designers in general.....
i'll work around what i have to however I think you're missing my points.
cheers
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- atomica0
I didn't reccomend going saab or acura :) I simply reinforced the idea that your design might need some conceptual and 'design' reinforcement. An old prof of mine said stock photos were the easy way out. Its become much like clip artistry sometimes...I'm going to bed to dream a better dream.
- monkeyshine0
hey dconstrukt,
The revised layout is looks less focussed to me than the one you first posted. The content just seems like its floating...and expand the leading a bit...too tight and small for waning eyes. What's up with the 2nd headline? It's centered and the first headline is not quite left justified but not centered. On the top, my eye is drawn to that dead abyss of space to the right of the logo.
I don't feel like you're feeling it. Doesn't seem like you have a good grasp on the goals of your client...maybe I'm wrong.
Don't mean to be hard on you...I know its sometimes brutal posting work here, but its good for you too if you can take it in.