we are all artists.
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- nb1
What I'm saying is that Yoda was wrong.
There is no do or do not. There is only try.
- nb3
You'll always have cynics who say "we will never be like that" and you'll have optimists who say "some day we'll get there". The cynics are technically correct, but it doesn't really matter because the point isn't to achieve perfection.
The point is to find peace and purpose in the journey towards it.
- notype4
this should be FP and should have 100+ upvotes
"And that our goals as humans working together should be to figure out how to promote and help one another in exploring and attaining our true potential? "
Profound reminder.
- Profound reminder that no matter how technological advance we get, we will never be like that.Maaku
- Why should we be like that? While these are nice goals for someone, not everyone shares these values, nor should they have to.cannonball1978
- Basically, stop telling me to be a fucking collectivist.cannonball1978
- robotron3k0
Sorry but you are not talking about art at all. Not one bit. You're actually talking about ambition. Ambition is missing link to being a creator, and while everyone may have one skill they are great at, very few will have the ambition of an MJ, Tesla or a Trump to pursue to the max. Because ambition is random, sporadic and does not strike everyone. Sometimes rich, smart people get it, sometimes poor dumb people get it. But not everyone has it. Ambition is everything.
- the american economic system only applauds ambition if it can benefit from the results. discovery and creation are not necessarily aligned with thatcolin_s
- opportunity is often gifted or inherited - ambition is a factor but the market often defines what people are allowed the chance to see their work throughcolin_s
- and if you believe the market is fair and truly free than this debate is over because we will not be able to see eye to eye on the sidescolin_s
- Colin_s you are mistakenly equating ambition with what the market will bear..cannonball1978
- I'm not talking about market ambition, wtf? I'm talking about get off your ass and do something creative type of ambition. Art is the by product.robotron3k
- robo i was referring to that most people, because of systems out of their control, are not granted the opportunity to explore ambition, regardlesscolin_s
- and that perhaps it is the fault of those systems, and with a different concept of society every individual would be afforded such a chance to excelcolin_s
- and that exploration of the personal and immediate would benefit society at large - whereas our state of affairs largely depends on specific benefactorscolin_s
- helloeatbreathedrive2
All in all, great stuff man. I'm personally doing almost all I can before I kick it, and more. That's whats pushing me everyday. I'm sure its the same for all friends and creators here. Best of luck :)
- colin_s
This is a personal philosophy / concept of human nature, would be down to kick around as a debate / hear what y'all think.
The phrase artist is one that most people I know who are 'artists' are a bit reluctant to adopt. The modern terminology is usually applied to historic figures who excelled at a medium of expression. Consequently, at least in America under what I've experienced, those who don't offer a talent subset that equates to those ideas would be laughed at were they to say "I am an artist."
But I don't think that's the truth.
My thesis is that all humans are capable of excellence in at least one specific area. That, given the opportunity and exposure, all people can contribute in a way to their community-as well as society at large-in a way that is substantially meaningful.
Use of those who excel in general, non-artistic culture can be used as strong examples. Michael Jordan is an artist when it comes to basketball. Tesla was an artist with electricity. Donald Trump is an artist when it comes to grifters.
My point is that, were society ever to grow to a place where people would be free to explore their nature as opposed to being locked into the options presented by a primarily oppressive power structure, many more individuals would have a chance to not only feel fulfilled by their own lives but that fulfillment would lead to a better, greater humanity.
It could be cooking, coding, parenthood, social outreach, flying, gardening, building, city planning, international diplomacy, translation, history ... even law and its protections (there might even be a good cop out there). We already have these notions in terms of awarding greatness in fields of professions, and broader awards for contributions to the world like the MacAruthur and Nobel prizes ... but as the idea of art is generally considered undefinable, what if that is to say that is because it can potentially apply to everyone, and everything? And that our goals as humans working together should be to figure out how to promote and help one another in exploring and attaining our true potential?