we are all artists.

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  • cherub1

    @colin_s: I think you may be confusing abilities with art, and human potential in general with art. The word "art" being used here to mean both the ability to create it and the created thing itself, the artwork. And speaking of artwork, that's why generic, non-art related abilities for example, cannot be considered artistic on their own - they do not manifest as a creation of art. Being "supportive" as you say, is not art. As an abstract characteristic, it is not an artwork. If you cause it to take a form by incorporating it into an artwork of some sort sure, but "supportive" on its own, I do not believe that qualifies as art.

    The whole spectrum of human abilities and potential encompasses much, much more than artistic ability/potential alone. Robotron3k said you confused art with ambition. I'd say I agree. Your thesis is correct(and I love it). But it has nothing to do with art. A big part of art is visually(or auditorially) communicating something to the viewer, that's more or less meant to be either enjoyed because of its aesthetic beauty, or admired for whatever expressive elements the artist embedded within it. I don't think Michael Jordan playing basketball fulfills that criteria, so I don't accept that as art. It's just a skill. The final product is called a basketball game.

    My English professor used to say you can never be too specific in your thesis. The tendency is to be too broad. Here you are being too broad. Narrow it down to just art if that's what you really want to explore.

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    I'm just gonna leave this here.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/ar…

  • notype0

    There's a guy at my local gym who mans the front desk.

    He's 31, smokes, but a young, fit, handsome dude. He expressed to me that he has no desire for much and is not at all creative (has no creative abilities). I challenged him but also asked what he liked to do as a child. He has parents very similar to mine (from a specific region of the world) who stifled his creativity. I hate to go back to the guardian but it so shapes our lives if we have not done the work to steer it to the direction we'd like it to go in, if we find that we're fulfilling another's purpose (or no purpose at all), or had a hard upbringing

    Should I press him more?
    Leave him be?

    Our connection is oddly strong. As in... you know when you meet someone you feel like you've known them? I don't want to be this kids BFF, and I think a 10 year younger friend may be a little strange for me, but he definitely wants that I feel.

    I'll keep chatting with him for sure. I feel like he's got so much potential and so much to uncover there. I didn't share with him much about my personal story,... I really just listened to his. He seems like he can really do some brilliant shit (just my feeling), other than "I tell ppl about this gym, that's what I do." What if there's a Basquiat laying await?

    ...or just leave him be?

    Thanks again colin for this poignant thread.

    • sorry, wrote this before coffee. but the overall message is there LOLnotype
    • not that he needs to change anything *notype
    • but basquiat was garbage art. which goes back to the old saying beauty lies in the eye of beholder and anyone can be an artist through someone elses eyesdeathboy
    • its purely conditional on others views, and individuals shouldn't worry of such things. If they feel they are they are, reality is their illusiondeathboy