Wordpress Alternative?
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- pinkfloyd
I need to whip out some portfolio like sites. Wordpress just takes too long to load. Is there something that's lighter, has a template for a portfolio and that I can upload to my own host? I love squarespace, but I want a cms like system under my hosting plan.
- detritus0
Have you tried caching files? Makes WP much quicker, especialyl for non-Blog-like usage.
- +moldero
- How much quicker? Some developer was bragging about making a heavy site load in 7 seconds with wp.pinkfloyd
- a cached page is essentially just vanilla HTML (+ whatever JS you have in there, etc) so it depends on how well-made your page is and how quick your server isdetritus
- ...7 seconds isn't much to brag about. it should be about the amount of time most pages load 'most' of their non-heavy content in.detritus
- ++dbloc
- fadein11-1
million threads on this
- noneck1
WP may not be the tool for your needs, but it can be pretty fast if it's configured properly.
- Use a good server setup. DigitalOcean has always performed great for me. I also really like Serverpilot's setup of PHP + NGNIX.
- If you can, use a custom theme. I find the themes from Themeforest (and others) are bloated with shit you don't need, and are pretty heavy with jQuery plugins and unnecessary CSS.
- Caching helps a lot.
- Use a plugin like WP smush to trim down and optimize your images in a portfolio site. No need to be loading 2MB images.- theme site recommendations?pinkfloyd
- http://wpshower.com/…noneck
- pinkfloyd0
I'm using bluehost. If I go with wp and make the typical portfolio site, how fast can it load? Any samples? Thanks!
- detritus1
Dude, 'caching' a WP site just makes it render a plain HTML site which it then spits out instead of it's typically-PHP-generated ones — all you're adding on top is a single DB call to check which version of the page it should deliver.
Once you've 'cached' your site, the speed it's delivered at becomes not a function of WP's ability to generate pages, rather how you've built the page in the first place and what it does there after - ie. image size, loaded fonts, JS renders, etc etc.
- -it'sdetritus
- oh yeah? this changes everythingpinkfloyd
- Sorry, I should've specified - "it renders a plain html PAGE" - ie. just the bits you dictate as being cached, not necessarily the whole site.detritus
- server side compression, cached & minified htmlcssjs are the winners.sted
- got any samples off hand of a wp site that loads fast? I need to see to believepinkfloyd
- http://444.hu/sted
- but i don't know how fast it is in the us.
http://capitalhedge.…
this one isn't using any cache or minify just an optimized serversted - this is also non-cached and bellow 4sec load:
http://www.bernardus…sted - the 444.hu loaded fast, but the capitalhedge was too slowpinkfloyd
- bernard was decentpinkfloyd
- capitalhedge sux sometimes because we had to integrate a 3rd party api and it's sometimes takes 3secs to load the data. (fucking activecampagin never use that)sted
- 444.hu is fast as hellpinkfloyd
- that's wp-cache, and optimized functions, (removed wordpress junk, and special assets folder, and the entire site is just text with some images)sted
- https://www.smashing… runs on WP. very fast.monNom
- geez smashingmags html looks like crap :)sted
- It's all optimizations, I did a workshop with Vitaly where he discussed it. All files necessary to render the front page are pushed down in the first 14kbmonNom
- Which is an ethernet frame or packet or something. Everything else gets patched up afterward via ajax.monNom
- "Everything else gets patched up afterward via ajax" *shudder*detritus
- tank020
SQUARESPACE
- pinkfloyd0
I'm using bluehost where I can host multiple domains under one plan so that's why I want to host it.
- moldero1
Bluehost is slow as fuck though, you can run a plugin called P3-Profiler and it can tell you what plugins are slowing your shit down the most, this can help make up for the slow hosting
- moldero0
you can also use a CDN to host your WP images elsewhere
http://www.wpexplorer.com/free-c…
(mt)'s grid server comes with cloudflare,
the (mt) grid server is slower than their WP premium hosting, but still WAY faster than BlueHost, I currently use both Grid and WP-Premium and used to use Bluehost for a short bit, because Bluehost's speed was ridiculously slow.
- Opyi6Do-5
If you JUST want to build a website WordPress in itself is absolutely fantastic.
However, many people who want a (WordPress) website really want a web business (get lots of traffic, make money with the site, etc). While putting up a (WordPress) site is easy, knowing how to build an online business is another story.
The reality is that most sites never get more than a handful of visitors. And without traffic, income is hard to come by. In other words, No traffic = No profits.
The real truth is that many people struggle to build a successful online business with WordPress. They keep changing or adding plugins, themes and other features hoping it will solve their problem. Yet Wordpress "as is" won't build an online business. It's missing a do-able start-to-finish BUSINESS process.
Surely, you can slog through the mountains of business building advice and tools that are out there. But for most WordPress users it all ends up being too much.
So, despite the dazzling display of Wordpress features, the reality for most (non-tech) people who want to create a web business with Wordpress is that they need to adhere to an easy-to-follow, all-in-one, proven, ethical webbusiness-building system (not a get rich quick scheme), tailored to the WordPress platform, to get (1) a significant amount of traffic and get (2) targeted traffic (example of such a system: WealthPrinciples dot net).
Otherwise... you'll end up having (and building) only a WordPress webSITE (or BLOG) but not a webBUSINESS.
- ETM1
Two simle CMS's we use for small sites are:
CMS Made Simple:
http://www.cmsmadesimple.org/Pulse CMS:
https://www.pulsecms.com/
- meffid0
or
http://www.concrete5.org {A QBN'er suggested this CMS years ago when he did a folio, I forget who it was, but it's secure and fantastic.}
Keep it lean and mean with https://www.varnish-cache.org
WordPress is NOT a CMS- when a dev suggests to deploy it for a client microsite, I request they manage the install for 12 months after, and for free, and all the changes along with.
Punishment for not learning.